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Copy Chroma Key settings

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fsn2006
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We have a Sony 9000 VMU. We would like to be able to set up a Chroma Key on our main camera and then copy these settings to the other camera's so that they can be quickly used if our main camera should fail.
Can this be done on the Sony 9000?

I often use the Copy Source Memory function on the Kalypso to do just this but can not find this feature on the Sony. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

- Craig.

Bill D
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[quote="Bob Ennis"]Right you are, Bill. Ping me at my e-mail address if you still want that picture that I mentioned.[/quote] I tried again, I did it last week.. I think... Bill
Bob Ennis
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Right you are, Bill. Ping me at my e-mail address if you still want that picture that I mentioned.

Bob Ennis

Bill D
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[quote="Bob Ennis"]I think that Bill's right...you can copy the "good" chroma key settings (including the camera) to another keyer, using Key Copy. Then in the ENG SETUP / SWITCHER /KEY/WIPE/FM menu, select the target M/E & temporarily turn off the Key Memory. Then you can change the keyer source button without affecting the settings...then turn the Key Memory back on. .[/quote] Bob, would I assume you can leave source memory off, right?? Except for maybe a split key I never really saw a good reason to use it, I would rather just build an emem (or snapshot) that made the change rather then getting smoked with a key setting that I didn't want. Bill
Bob Ennis
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I think that Bill's right...you can copy the "good" chroma key settings (including the camera) to another keyer, using Key Copy. Then in the ENG SETUP / SWITCHER /KEY/WIPE/FM menu, select the target M/E & temporarily turn off the Key Memory. Then you can change the keyer source button without affecting the settings...then turn the Key Memory back on. Also note that in this menu (next to the Key Memory window) there is a Video Proc Memory that can be turned on / off. Unlike the GV products, where ALL source Memory is lumped together, the 8K/9k separates this important info. So it's not a matter of "not evolving yet", it's just a different approach that works better in some instances than in others (just like the GV works better in some applications than others) - that's why we need workarounds for each brand switcher...to mimic what the "other guys" do better for the application that we're trying to accomplish.

Bob Ennis

Bill D
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[quote="fsn2006"]Thanks for the suggestion, but I am not sure that this solves the problem. We want to be able to tweak the key on Camera 1 until it is perfect and copy all of these settings to the other camera's rather than having to do each camera individually. Perhaps Sony aren't up to that stage of evolution yet.[/quote] Do you mean so that any camera you chroma key will have the same chroma keyer settings? If so two things.. Just change the source, unless you are using Sony's version of source memory, the keyer settings won't change when you change crosspoints. You could build 5 different snapshots that changes the cameras, or just call up your perfect setup and change the source. If the source memory is on, there is a way to turn it off, I am not sure where though.. Second in theory every camera may be shaded slightly differently, and or painted differently, what is perfect for one camera may not be perfect for another. Not sure if that was what you were looking for, I believe you could do this on any switcher I have ever worked on Sony 7K, GVG 3k/4K. Unless you have key/source memory on. Which I never do, any keyers setting stay the same when you change crosspoints. Bill
fsn2006
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I am not sure that this solves the problem. We want to be able to tweak the key on Camera 1 until it is perfect and copy all of these settings to the other camera's rather than having to do each camera individually. Perhaps Sony aren't up to that stage of evolution yet.
Bob Ennis
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In the keyer modifier panel (where you set up processed keys), select the M/E where you're doing the Chroma Key & Hold Down the key button (the key where you're doing the Chroma Key). While holding down this button, press any of the keyer delegate buttons in the local M/E keyer panel. This is a quick method of doing the copy. In the ENG SETUP / SWITCHER / Key/Wipe/FM menu Menu, if you have either FULL or SIMPLE Keyer Memory on for the target M/E, the values should be retained.

Bob Ennis