Hi Heather, When I am on a Kalypso and want to be able to apply a glow with a transform engine to any source (various tape machine for a roll out for example) I set the tape machine up to be its own hole cutter in the engineering menu. So if VTR 5 is say input 26, I would make its associated key source the same (26). I assign the tape machine to the transfrom engine, set the key to linear, matte ill the key white, and blur the video all the way out. I usually blow the video up slightly and then adjust the opacity to my liking. The glowed video kind of does a fly by of the video that it is keyed over. This is what I came up with since the Kalypso I regularly use does not have Glow, Defocus, or Lighting. If I am on the Dual side I don't have a DVEous either. This works just as well if I set it up as a Lum/Video key. Scott

Thanks everyone. I actually got the TE's glow to work last night by changing the type of key. I'm still used to thinking of my "dve" type device as a cross point instead of a keyer. So I can better understand how a GVG works, why does a lum key not act more like a self key? There is linear and even an adjustable linear to pull the key signal from. Why does the lum key still look for a seperate matte? And Bob, it was great to hear from you. I hope everything is going well.

[quote="Bob Ennis"]Yes, they do. It glows the interior of the key. Their DME's also have a Key Border feature that does the more traditional outside edge glow.[/quote] Cool, thanks Bob

Yes, they do. It glows the interior of the key. Their DME's also have a Key Border feature that does the more traditional outside edge glow.

Never knew they actually had a feature for glow in the TE's for HD, I was always used to using a dveous to create one. Does Sony DME's have a glow feature.. (I know off topic but curious...) thanks Bill

The glow is an option on in the HD systems.... Try NOT doing a split key - just turn off the AUTO SEL button & that will do a self-key. The glow works only on the area of the key signal - if the signal is full-screen, then you'll only see a shadow. Doing the LUM Key thing (Auto Sel off) will give the glow something to key off of.

The problem that I have run into is when I try to key EVS A, I still see it using EVS B even when I change it to a lum key. The ENG set up has EVS B as the key signal for EVS A. So when I do a split key, it still uses EVS B. I have also tried to use the "glow" option in the DPM, but it only seems to give me a drop shadow.

Bob, Are you saying that on a SD the glow option is available. I know most HD models have this.

The Kalypso TE's have Glow - but it's an option that maybe you don't have. If they don't have the option, what I do is this: Key the original CG on a keyer...key priority 2 or lower Put that same CG into another keyer & Effects send that to a TE...key priority 1 (or higher than the other key) Matte fill the TE'd CG to White In the TE, turn on the BLUR & max it out You could use Defocus, but if you have that in the TE , then you probably already have Glow anyway. Adjust the transparency of the TE'd CG to get the look that you want. By using a traveling mask with this TE'd keyer, you can get a really cool looking glint, too. Source Memory (as Bill said) or recalling a keyer source via E-MEM will solve the source issue you mentioned.

Usually when you make a glow, you don't have a key signal. Also you don't necessarily need a TEngine either, unless you are positioing the video, etc. Try doing a lum/video key of the tape machine. Start with it over a color bgd or something, lum key out whatever you can to leave you with white. Then go into the proc amp for that keyer and crank up the lum gain. Now change your bgd to the same source as the keyer. Playing with the lum key will give you different variations, as will the proc amp. Try that see what it does for you.. If for some reason though you want to do a split key and use same key signal for different sources you can turn on source memory and then key each source using a split key. Then in theory (never tried) next time you key that source you will have the split key. Could also not use source memory and just use emems with the split key. Bill