[quote="hexen9859"]Thanks all for your help with this, What we found out. ..Kind of a combination of ENG settings and how we were taking the DVE: Opacity on push backs/fly-in effects... The opacity on push back effects where the opacity was set to 0% on the second keyframe, the video was ?popping? or ?cutting? out of the screen. This seems to be related to an Engineering setting, because the default Engineering setting in the ENG menu is ?unshaped? video output. Changing that helped but, we wanted to keep it this way, because it allowed for cleaner key layering through the switcher. This is how we finally "worked around" the problem. When doing one of these ?push backs? or ?fly-ins,? key the DVE over black on one of your switcher M/E?s as opposed to taking the DVE full. This worked, and produced what we were looking for. Once again thanks, I was about out of patience with this...[/quote] One other thing to try.... If your DVEous has the Color Corrector Option...just build the same move, but instead of ramping up/down the opacity, ramp up/down the Proc Amp controls in the Color Corrector menu. First Keyframe, everything "Normal"...second KF, everything in the Proc Amp at Zero. Run the DVE, and you essentially faded to black w/ out burning a keyer, or having to get up on an M/E. -Curt

Thanks all for your help with this, What we found out. ..Kind of a combination of ENG settings and how we were taking the DVE: Opacity on push backs/fly-in effects... The opacity on push back effects where the opacity was set to 0% on the second keyframe, the video was ?popping? or ?cutting? out of the screen. This seems to be related to an Engineering setting, because the default Engineering setting in the ENG menu is ?unshaped? video output. Changing that helped but, we wanted to keep it this way, because it allowed for cleaner key layering through the switcher. This is how we finally "worked around" the problem. When doing one of these ?push backs? or ?fly-ins,? key the DVE over black on one of your switcher M/E?s as opposed to taking the DVE full. This worked, and produced what we were looking for. Once again thanks, I was about out of patience with this...

You are probably running the DVEous in "Un-Shaped" mode. Try changing it to "Shaped". Of course you have to tell the switcher that your DVEous input is now shaped.

Are you taking the DVE as a source straight...or keying it. If you take it as a source straight, you will see this problem. I just replicated it here. We have split channel outputs as well as the DVE Combiner output. The way I replicated it was to put all the other channels off screen ( I made the Z value Zero in the 2d menu) Using 1A, I made a 2KF effect. One 100% oppacity, second, 0% oppacity. Taking the DVE straight exhibited the problem you are talking about when the effect is run. Keying it caused the oppacity to work the way it should. I would try keying your effect and see if this fixes your issue. Curt

Any chance your keyer was in lum mode instead of linear?

Well...I work with the Deveous everyday also. The opacity in the output mode is what I was using. It did it in vid/vid and vid/key mode on both channel 1 and 2. No, the background was not on. Any other ideas? Again..I've only noticed it once and only on one instance.

It sounds like background may be turned ON in the engineering menu. If background is on it does goofy things to effect that were built when it was turned off. It is turned on and off manually and not with the effect. Scott

Just out of curiousity, which opacity are you playing around with (the one in the combiner menu or the one in the output menu)? I've never seen this problem and I work on a DVEous every day. Also, were you in vid/vid mode or vid/key mode?

It's funny you mention this. I was on a truck recently....can't remember which one, and I had the same issue. I ended up having to build the effect through the transforms because, like you said, the deveous wouldn't fade opacity. I tried each path type and nothing changed. Today I'm on a HD/SD Geveous MX and its working fine. Hmmmm?