[quote="Dan Berger"]You are there, right?[/quote] echo.... echo.... echo..... crickets

[quote="Dan Berger"]Just wondering if this issue has been fixed, if not, when can we expect it to be fixed. I'm tired of looking like either a slow, or bad TD. --- Dan[/quote] Just want to see if there is an answer to this yet. Anyone at T/GVG feel free to respond. You are there, right?

Just wondering if this issue has been fixed, if not, when can we expect it to be fixed. I'm tired of looking like either a slow, or bad TD. --- Dan

My Apologies Eric, I was in an especially grouchy mood yesterday and was just looking for something to react to. I apologize for taking it out on you. Scott

Yeah, I mentioned that, Scott. Take it for granted that everyone here agrees that John can do whatever he wants with the site. That's a given. Rant not necessary.

I think I have to agree with Mr. Henkel here. He pays the bills for this site. Therefore, if he deems it necessary to prune his site, that is his right. Comparing his right to keep his site civil, the definition of civil being set by the one who pays the bills, to censorship is so far off base that it is not even in the ball park. Rant finished, Scott

[quote="John Henkel"]In case you are wondering where the other posts went. . . I'm finally getting to some much needed pruning here. PLEASE STICK TO THE TOPIC PEOPLE! You've all complained and moaned in many other threads here. If someone asks a question, if you can't help them with the solution, please don't post. It's simple. And the solution isn't to get another product, folks. It's hard for me not to go off more, but I've got a job to do, so please just think before you type. Thank you for your help.[/quote] Quite frankly, "pruning" sounds like "censorship". It is, of course, your site; you certainly have the right to censor whatever you like. Personally I have a hard time seeing how the site is hurt by a couple of posts that express honest opinions - and characterizing such opinions as "complained and moaned" is certainly denigrating the people sharing their opinions. Let's face it, it's not like you have an overly low signal-to-noise ratio here; each forum gets a handful of posts each day, if that. It's not exactly Slashdot. A little perspective never hurt anyone, and neither did the free flow of information AND opinion, both positive and negative. It's very easy to defend speech that you agree with. Anyone can do that.

In case you are wondering where the other posts went. . . I'm finally getting to some much needed pruning here. PLEASE STICK TO THE TOPIC PEOPLE! You've all complained and moaned in many other threads here. If someone asks a question, if you can't help them with the solution, please don't post. It's simple. And the solution isn't to get another product, folks. It's hard for me not to go off more, but I've got a job to do, so please just think before you type. Thank you for your help.

Rick, thanks for the quick response. I'm glad to know that I'm not losing my mind and that there is an actual issue that has been documented. I'll PM you privately with some details. John

Ok, I'm amazed as the rest of you that this one was not found sooner. It turned out not that difficult to duplicate, and oddly, we only had one station complaining about the problem that I'm aware of. Anyway, the software team has found the problem and promise a fix in a release due out in April timeframe. Sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time. Regarding 4 M/E Kayaks, yes, the HD/SD systems are available with up to 4.5 M/Es now! Yes, 4 plus basic Program/Preset, if you will. Access to all the resources is with existing panel family through either resource sharing between panels or by delegation to the M/Es on one panel. Watch for a new Datasheet to be online soon that provides more details. Rick Paulson Product Manager KayakHD

[quote="Dan Berger"]Apparently, when you go to a different ME, and select a trans with a BG & a Keyer or more (or 2 keyers, or whatever), the panel needs to catch up with you. This has GOT TO BE FIXED! --- Dan[/quote] The panel has to catch up with you. Am I missing something here? Who thinks Thompson/Grass Valley has made a grave mistake with re-introduction an updated version of the DD35 in the Kayak? This sounds like it's a disaster waiting to happen all over again. By the way, where are all the DD35s they sold the truck companies? Didn't they learn anything from that! As I have said in previous posts, it's too menu intensive for everyday sports shows and it has signs of failing again in that market which will most likely go to SONY if they don't wake up. The "Grass Valley" Kalypso and 3/4K before it along with their ease of programming is what made them successful in the sports/truck market. Again it seems as if no one listens to operators and real experiences with the newer products they are forcing down our throats. Engineers are not operators and if this is going to be a better mouse trap than their previous products or the Sony, then they better sit up and listen.

[quote="Dan Berger"]Ahhh!!! I'm glad you mentioned this! I work at a TV station that just got a HD 4ME Kayak, and we have brought this problem up several times, but we keep hearing, "no one else has mentioned this, it must be your switcher." or "Your RAM might be old, or corrupted." --- Dan[/quote] When did they come out with a 4 ME Kayak? Website only shows 3 ME

Ahhh!!! I'm glad you mentioned this! I work at a TV station that just got a HD 4ME Kayak, and we have brought this problem up several times, but we keep hearing, "no one else has mentioned this, it must be your switcher." or "Your RAM might be old, or corrupted." Apparently, when you go to a different ME, and select a trans with a BG & a Keyer or more (or 2 keyers, or whatever), the panel needs to catch up with you, so it'll take the 1st button you press (or whichever it thinks is the 1st button you pressed), but no others. Then you have to press the combo again for it to recognize. Another "work around" is to just hold down the multiple buttons for a few seconds, and then the panel will catch up with you. Now that you are working in that ME, you can do whatever you need in that ME and you will be fine... until you go to a different ME, and you have to do this in that ME. It's really making us good TD's look slow, or as if we are miss punching just the BG, or just a CG. There have been many times when the director has called to go to a source with a CG at the last second, and all they got was the source with no CG. All the TD's keep looking down at the switcher in wonder, and the Directors keep looking at the TD's. One TD even went over to the old 4K switcher, cause he thought it was him, and couldn't get the same thing to happen, so he knew it wasn't him. This has GOT TO BE FIXED! --- Dan

Where I remember this happening to me was when a DVE transition was selected. Because the background can't do DVE transitions, pressing both BKGD + a Keyer disengaged the background button. But this situation was a while ago - hopefully they've got this issue solved by now.

Well, at least more middle finger exercises..... I had a similar problem on a DD-35 (similar built panel) where the keyer button was so sensitive, that simply brushing the button with your finger would cause it to engage and, consequently, disengage whatever transition I had setup. The truck guys swapped buttons with ME-1 or something I believe.