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Sony Verion Questions...take two

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Fri, 03/23/2007 - 00:05
Curt
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Hello...I accidentally deleted the entire thread about versions...so I will continue it here.. Sorry

[quote="Rick wrote"]Curt,
If I had to do it, I would go with 4 internal and 4 external. I think the cost in I/O may be too high to go all 8 external. You're just not gaining that much, in my opinion.

The fake auz buses are only for the internal DMEs and cannot be accessed by anything else since they're not really aux busses. In regards to using real aux busses to feed external DMEs or DVEous, there are 48 aux busses in the 8000A. Whether or not you have enough outputs installed into the switcher for them to GO anywhere is up to you :-) If you hook up a DVEous (how many channels of DVEs do you NEED????), it would need an aux bus for each video input (since the DVEous had to choose between a key channel and the dual mode, I think it's 4 right?). So, if you were feeding an external DME's video and key channel you would use, for example, AUX 1 and AUX 2. There is a menu setting on Bus linking called "LINK AS KEY" You would link AUX 2 to AUX 1 AS KEY so when you selected video on Aux 1, the auto-selected key signal would automatically be selected on AUX 2 for you.

The 8000 series does not require a key to be mapped to its own button. Each crosspoint has a video/key pair assigned to it.[/quote]
Rick...thanks for the information. The DVEous was before I thought we would get any other DME channels...which I found out is now the case.( although...hmm...another 4 channels....hahaha) So now I think we will have 2 internal, and 4 external DME's.

I assume I could use Aux 1 for the fill, and Aux let's say 21 for the key output that would feed one channel of ext DME. ( Aux 2 and Aux 22, Aux 3 and 23, etc). THis way externals could be fed from Aux 1 through 4 and the keys would folllow out other outputs.? This way it would be easier to remember Aux 1 for DME 1, Aux 2 for DME 2, etc.

Thank you

Curt

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Sun, 04/01/2007 - 21:34
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Matt Saplin
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Bob & Rick... Thank you for all of the information! I've got a better picture of how things work given the comparison to the Kaypso...thanks! I'm excited to move toward the HD version, and with any luck at all, can help shape what we're moving toward in the mean time. I appreciate it, guys! Matt
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Sun, 04/01/2007 - 19:17
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Rick Edwards
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Bob took the words right out of my mouth! I was going to say the same thing about MP II. But dont' forget that the 8000A has other really cool features like KEY PREVIEW (actually two of them on each M/E). I use one of the Key Previews for what it was "intended" for, which is to provide the director with an output of DSK1 constantly on top of PGM/PST video with the other three DSKs in "link" mode. This gives an output that always shows channel 1 of the CG on top of PGM/PST, but also if DSK 2-4 are on will show if the CG will interfere with it. The other Key PVW I use is I set each M/Es KEY PVW2 in KEY mode and turn all the keyers to LINK mode. Then I take that output and assign it as the KEY SOURCE for its own respective M/E bank. That way if I create a complex key on, say, M/E 1 I can then Key M/E 1 on M/E 2 and be able to have all the compositied keys layer perfectly on M/E 2. RE
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Sun, 04/01/2007 - 19:07
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Bob Ennis
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I know that Rick will give you the details that you are asking about, but one thing that I wanted to add was that in my opinion, MPII works better than Pri/Sec. The reason that I say that is becaiuse with Pri/Sec, you have to partition the M/E & assign keyers to either partition - thus if you want CG1 on both Pri & Sec, you have to use up 2 keyers...one for each side. With MPII, you do not have such an artificial restriction: CG 1 can appear as Keyer 2 on BOTH Main & Sub simultaneously. Thus you can have up to 3 keyers that are shared by both sides (for patent reasons they won't let you do all 4). You can delegate control of any of the keyer functions to either the Main or Sub side.

Bob Ennis

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Sun, 04/01/2007 - 16:34
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Matt Saplin
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Funny...I actually printed the thread before it was deleted! :) In any event, I have a question for Rick about Multi-PGM II. Please for give my comparison, but does it work like PRIMARY and SECONDARY on the Kalypso? Operationally, is UTIL replaced by PGM II? Thank you for all of the help...we'll be upgrading to HD by October, and will be undergoing the initial changes in August. Our switcher hasn't been ordered yet, so I'm hoping to avoid mistakes as we do order...like MVE-9000 vs MVE-8000, and not adding Multi PGM II. Matt
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