Mike and Bill, Thanks for the advice. Opening day came and went. It all went real well. I took your advice and stuck to the standard of cutting on ME 3 and flying to ME 2 through program pst. Any way, hearing what you had to say really helped me and I thank you once again. It's just to bad that the D-Backs had to win. Greg

Bill, I am with you. Greg, too many ways to tie yourself up. Most OK to good directors know the limits of the two keyers per M/E on a 3k/4k and live within them. For those who don't a stern "NO!!" the first time assists them.

[quote="Truck TD"]Hi all, I'm thinking of running a 3k in layered mode on M/E 3 for the first time and wanted to run a couple of situations by you. Could you comment on the following set up and some baseball game time situations (First time doing baseball). Thanks in advance!! M/E 1 saved for splits, two boxes and such M/E/ 2 Replays and to fly to with fonts from P/Pst Key 1 CHY 1 Key 2 Brand / CHY 2 M/E 3 Layered Key 1 CHY 1 Key 2 CHY 2 BKG A Bug BKG B Red / Green Key P/Pst Key 1 M/E 3 Key 2 Fast Forward / Tele E-Mem List 0- Cut on P/Pst and M/E 3 on KF 1 01 -09 cameras with bug 11-12 replay on and off 13-16 transistions 17-20 caps 30-39 DVEous Question If I'm at C-1 on p/pst with font one keyed through M/E3 into key one DSK and want to cross to C-4 with the back side. Could I latch chy 1 and chy2 on M/E 3 and preset c-4 on p/pst then auto trans both. Or, since I want the trans to occur on ppst and me3 at the same time I could effect dissolve using emem 0-0. Would that effect dissolve rate track the auto trans rate on p/pst for the camera trans and the auto trans rate on M/E3 for the key trans? Seems like the layered mode on the 3K is a good idea to add keys, but I worry about crossing keys and getting caught in my own madness. Any general thoughts on this subject? Thanks a bunch Greg[/quote] Greg, this is obviously a very different way to cut a sports game on a 3K, then most people probably do. Not sure if you have punched it ever in a typical fashion. Cutting cams on ME 3, and keying replays dsk, to go to ME 2, etc. Few other thoughts. If your director is expecting you to constantly cross between font channels and key a bug, he has to know that with 2 keyers per me, there are limitations. I would do the bug in ME 3 along with chy 1. I would have emems, to cut cams with chy 2, while leaving bug in. If you really had to cross to another cam with another font, I would just go to ME 2, as a source on ME 3, and do it there. You will have a hell of a time trying to preset next transition in ME 3, and pgm/pst, and hit dissolve at the same time. You could get it to work I am sure with effects dissolves, but effects dissolves will remember keyer states which may or may not be a problem. Lastly worst problem I think is that as you are cutting cameras using master emem in bank 0, the director will want to go to replay as you are still cutting, you need to get to bank 1 run replay, etc then back into cutting. I think most TD's like having replay move called up, and while still cutting cams in ME 3, just reach over and hit run. You could use ME 1 in layered mode, and key that in ME 3, and do your double dissolve that way, and have red/green key up there as well. Then just do splits in ME 2, that is if you don't need to replay out to splits. If so then this is one hell of a game to be stuck on a 3K. Most sports directors I have found don't cross between font channels except maybe in the open or lineups, etc. If they do it is on a cut, in which you can emem that in ME 3.. Layered mode is cool, usually for sports I use it when it is a small game and their bug box doesn't have a clock ability of some kind, I will key whatever dve and bug in ME 1 as a layered mode, and key that in ME 3. Just my thoughts good luck Bill