You can never have enough of anything I say!! I was the TD on the Aussie version of Wheel of Fortune and had a fairly complicated setup on our MVS-8000. But that was nothing compared to what we ended up with when the 8000 was taken out of our production studio and replaced with a 7350 and a new set with 9 additional plasmas! so we had, Aux 1,2,3 = DME feeds Aux 4,5,6 = 3 seperate contestant plasmas Aux 7 = Host plasma Aux 8,9 = on set & plasmas Aux 10 = centre projector Aux 11-14(edit pvw) = DSK 3&4 key&fill input VTR controlled RTD(replay transition device) to recall and roll clips into contestant plasmas + transitions. Quantel Picturebox still store + the still file option for the FM. GPI's to trigger snapshots off contestant buzzers. I was directing at this stage, the TD's is still having counselling ;-) We are not making the show at the moment but people couldn't believe we were doing what we were on a 7350. If I'm ever in the US I'd love to come and have a look at your setup. Cheers Brian

[quote="AJR"]Rick... how exactly do you feed the monitor outs? We were thinking of using them to get all 8 channels of FM up on the wall instead of burning 8 aux outputs. Are monitor outs snapshottable? Can you set them as part of the switcher setup file and forget about them? Just curious. Oh and Bill... how quickly you forget your roots :-) The way it looks now... 8 outputs for various M/E feeds (clean, dirty, etc), 8 outputs for external DME, 6 floor feeds, 8 FM feeds, a bunch of feeds to people in the control room (audio, lighting, video, etc) and cam return feeds. What's killing us is that to get some stuff on the wall burns outputs. If we could use the monitor outs, it would help greatly. Bob... Bill D has shown me pictures of your Wheel/Jeopardy setup and explained how things are wired. My brain implodes whenever I think too hard about it. I never would have imagined the shows were that crazy.[/quote] Remember as I mentioned in my earlier post monitor feeds can ONLY output what was input. They cannot send out anything that was "touched" by the switcher (i.e. Frame Memory, M/E). So in this case, they will not do you any good. Monitor outputs are routed just like an aux bus. You first need to set some USER region (there are 8 of them) to include the 8 monitor outputs. Then you need to map 8 Aux destination buttons to monitor outputs. Don't forget that, while maybe a pain, you can set the EDIT PVW destination to be a SHIFT so you can have twice as many aux destinations. Yes, monitor outputs are snapshotable and timelineable. Just curious..... what are you outputting 8 FM's for and you're using an external DME? What kind? Regards, RE

[quote="AJR"]Rick... how exactly do you feed the monitor outs? We were thinking of using them to get all 8 channels of FM up on the wall instead of burning 8 aux outputs. Are monitor outs snapshottable? Can you set them as part of the switcher setup file and forget about them? Just curious. Oh and Bill... how quickly you forget your roots :-) The way it looks now... 8 outputs for various M/E feeds (clean, dirty, etc), 8 outputs for external DME, 6 floor feeds, 8 FM feeds, a bunch of feeds to people in the control room (audio, lighting, video, etc) and cam return feeds. What's killing us is that to get some stuff on the wall burns outputs. If we could use the monitor outs, it would help greatly. Bob... Bill D has shown me pictures of your Wheel/Jeopardy setup and explained how things are wired. My brain implodes whenever I think too hard about it. I never would have imagined the shows were that crazy.[/quote] Oh I forgot most stuff once I walked through those doors, but I still know what you do. I count 35 in the above list including FM's. What else you got :) You still have another 12 or so outputs for those 40 plasmas, although you may only still have 5 color correctors so what would be the point :) I like the idea of using those monitor outputs for FM. Allan I would think those outs show up in the GUI, and you just assign FM 1-8, etc to those outs, just you would assign the other outputs. In theory would be nice to see monitor outs of the DME's, I think if I remember even using internal DME's you can get a monitor out from either the MVE 9K or 8K, in theory external just have to DA the outputs of the box and put it on the wall. Be nice to have them all in a multiplexer with some triggers to bring any of the channels full in the monitor to build stuff easier. ok, back to the simply stuff Oh and Bob not sure how long you have been doing the wheel but my fondest wheel memories are still. "Pat for $425 I would like the recliner, and for $75 the gold plated deck of cards, and the rest on a gift certificate" Great stuff... Bill

Yeah, the shows really have gotten crazy...it's not your (great-great) grandfather's Wheel of Fortune any more - although our demographics still tend to run in the "mummified" category. In the studio, we're using 7 cameras...on the road it's up to 12 or 13: 10 channels of DDR (4 for prize playout & 6 for my graphics), 6 to 8 record machines, 2 CG's (with 2 backup), 2 external Still Stores (with 2 backup) + my 8 FM channels...I even have my computer coming in as a source for an extra Still Store. And we STILL don't have enough sources to feed each of those on-stage plasmas a discreet source, let alone having enough switcher resources to simultaneously transition sources in each plasma like the Director wants. And now there's talk about putting plasmas in the floor and in some of the Wheel wedges. And then there's the separate HD room with 2 DVD's, a G5 running Final Cut Pro, and taking in 1 or 2 computer feeds (plus a signal from one of my AUXes) and its own Folsom switcher...and that's just to feed the wall behind the contestants. The dog? I think that it's in storage somewhere - they bring it out for nostalgistic display when they're doing specials like the 4000th show a few years ago or the 5000th show this upcoming year.

Whatever happened to the dog? Scott

Rick... how exactly do you feed the monitor outs? We were thinking of using them to get all 8 channels of FM up on the wall instead of burning 8 aux outputs. Are monitor outs snapshottable? Can you set them as part of the switcher setup file and forget about them? Just curious. Oh and Bill... how quickly you forget your roots :-) The way it looks now... 8 outputs for various M/E feeds (clean, dirty, etc), 8 outputs for external DME, 6 floor feeds, 8 FM feeds, a bunch of feeds to people in the control room (audio, lighting, video, etc) and cam return feeds. What's killing us is that to get some stuff on the wall burns outputs. If we could use the monitor outs, it would help greatly. Bob... Bill D has shown me pictures of your Wheel/Jeopardy setup and explained how things are wired. My brain implodes whenever I think too hard about it. I never would have imagined the shows were that crazy.

For me & my shows, here's the breakdown... Aux 1 = Center Screen Monitor on Stage Aux 2 = Contestant Screen Monitor on Stage Aux 3-6 = Cutting Piece Plasma Feeds (4 of them) Aux 7-10 = Feeds to 4 Plasmas behind the Host & alongside the Center Screen Monitors Aux 11-14 = Switched ISO's for Video Tape AUX 15 = Audience Feed AUX 16 = Cascadeable Programmable Clean Feed AUX 17 = Switchable Viewfinder Return #2 (VF Ret #1 = PGM) AUX 18 = Producer's Feed AUX 19-24 = Monitor Wall Feeds (so that we can see 3 of each of the M/E's other outputs [#'s 2-6]) Auxes 25-48 = The Video, Key & External feeds to my 8 channels of outboarded 9000 DME's I could use more outputs...no, really, I could. Even having the dedicated Monitor Outputs would only be of marginal help. And most people still think that the show is just a puzzleboard, a spinning wheel & a ceramic Dalmation.....

[quote="Rick Edwards"][quote="AJR"]All, My station will be getting 2 Sony 8000's (not sure which variety... one may be an 8000, one may be an 8000A, or both may be 8000A's). The way things currently look, 48 aux outputs may not be enough to feed everything we need to. I see on the back of the frame there are 8 monitor outputs. Can someone explain to me how they work? I see they have something to do with the DME's but can't find much more info than that. Can I use them as an aux output 49-56 and bypass the DME's alltogether? How do I feed things to the different monitor outputs? Any info you all can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Allan[/quote] I really am curious where you guys are using 48 outputs...... Regards, RE[/quote] So am I .. I know what you are kind of doing. 8 auxes to external dme? Couple ME outs, and some cleans? Some previews? I will make it 20 total there. You trying to feed every new plasma a different feed? :) Please fill us in .. :)

[quote="AJR"]All, My station will be getting 2 Sony 8000's (not sure which variety... one may be an 8000, one may be an 8000A, or both may be 8000A's). The way things currently look, 48 aux outputs may not be enough to feed everything we need to. I see on the back of the frame there are 8 monitor outputs. Can someone explain to me how they work? I see they have something to do with the DME's but can't find much more info than that. Can I use them as an aux output 49-56 and bypass the DME's alltogether? How do I feed things to the different monitor outputs? Any info you all can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Allan[/quote] Wow! 48 Outputs is not enough? You guys seriously need to take a look at your plant routing switcher. Seems like it's in need of a serious upgrade. :-) The Monitor outputs are exactly the same as a router's monitor outputs. They allow inputs to be routed to outputs with no processing. It's basically a 80x8 router in the switcher. You cannot have any processed sources, meaning no M/E, no PGM, no KEYS no nothing except inputs can go out of those outputs. I really am curious where you guys are using 48 outputs...... Regards, RE