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PGM/PST cuts when timeline is recalled

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Bill D
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Hello,
I built a pgm/pst timeline and when I recall it sometimes it cuts on pgm/pst.

In the path menu I turned off the entire pgm bus, then turned on key 3 to step.
First keyframe changes source and sends dsk 3 to DME 8.
2nd keyframe turns key on,
3rd pauses (to go with dme 8 pause).
4th keyframe loses the key.

Originally I was recalling it part of a master recall. Now I have a macro calling up the pgm timeline and DME 8 timeline. In both cases it occasionally cuts on the pgm bus. I have rebuilt it starting with zero keyframes, and still have same issue occasionally.

any thoughts as to what is happening or what I am doing wrong. I would think with rest of pgm path set to off I would prevent anything like this.

Also seems like a macro can't send a keyer to a DME? Really only reason I need pgm timeline is to do that.

thanks
Bill

Bill D
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[quote="Rick Edwards"]Sorry I didn't see the comment about a macro sending a keyer to a DME. V7.1 (due out before end of Sept I think) will have menu macros. Pretty much everything you can do in a menu, you can do in a macro. If you look on an M/E's Keyer and select PROCESSED KEY menu, you can assign a DME to a keyer there. So I'm guessing (haven't seen this version yet) that you might actually be able to do that in 7.1 RE[/quote] Good that you will be able to macro menu's. Now if they can just make it so that the original frame can go past ver 5.4, that would be even cooler. Oh well
Rick Edwards
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Sorry I didn't see the comment about a macro sending a keyer to a DME. V7.1 (due out before end of Sept I think) will have menu macros. Pretty much everything you can do in a menu, you can do in a macro. If you look on an M/E's Keyer and select PROCESSED KEY menu, you can assign a DME to a keyer there. So I'm guessing (haven't seen this version yet) that you might actually be able to do that in 7.1 RE
Bill D
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[quote="Rick Edwards"][quote="Bill D"]Rick, I set all the parameters to off. Including the trans path. I just now also added xpt hold to all levels besides dsk 3. Although they are greyed out b/c the levels are off. Happens sporadically, trying to see if there is a pattern. One thought I could maybe make it a dme keyer link, but still would like to be able to do pgm/pst timelines in the future w/o concern of it happening. For now I match preset before I recall live :) thanks Bill[/quote] Well, now I'm stumped :-( Bug??[/quote] I guess it is possible it is a bug. ver 5.4, so good luck anyone finding that one. Everyone build the timeline above and try it :) Curt also mentioned about keyer snapshot. It turns out it will send a keyer to dme with a keyer snapshot, so that is a good work around. Just stinks to burn two keyer snapshots (one to set up dme move) other to release dme. tried macroing the release, doesn't seem to work. Bummer.. thanks Bill
Rick Edwards
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[quote="Bill D"]Rick, I set all the parameters to off. Including the trans path. I just now also added xpt hold to all levels besides dsk 3. Although they are greyed out b/c the levels are off. Happens sporadically, trying to see if there is a pattern. One thought I could maybe make it a dme keyer link, but still would like to be able to do pgm/pst timelines in the future w/o concern of it happening. For now I match preset before I recall live :) thanks Bill[/quote] Well, now I'm stumped :-( Bug??
Bill D
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Rick, I set all the parameters to off. Including the trans path. I just now also added xpt hold to all levels besides dsk 3. Although they are greyed out b/c the levels are off. Happens sporadically, trying to see if there is a pattern. One thought I could maybe make it a dme keyer link, but still would like to be able to do pgm/pst timelines in the future w/o concern of it happening. For now I match preset before I recall live :) thanks Bill
Rick Edwards
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[quote="Bill D"]Hello, I built a pgm/pst timeline and when I recall it sometimes it cuts on pgm/pst. In the path menu I turned off the entire pgm bus, then turned on key 3 to step. First keyframe changes source and sends dsk 3 to DME 8. 2nd keyframe turns key on, 3rd pauses (to go with dme 8 pause). 4th keyframe loses the key. Originally I was recalling it part of a master recall. Now I have a macro calling up the pgm timeline and DME 8 timeline. In both cases it occasionally cuts on the pgm bus. I have rebuilt it starting with zero keyframes, and still have same issue occasionally. any thoughts as to what is happening or what I am doing wrong. I would think with rest of pgm path set to off I would prevent anything like this. Also seems like a macro can't send a keyer to a DME? Really only reason I need pgm timeline is to do that. thanks Bill[/quote] Bill, Are you just setting XPT HOLD on either the A or B Bus? There is another portion you may need to set, I think it's called TRANS or TRANSITION or seomthig like that. It's one of the selections in the path menu on the left side. Sorry I can't be more accurate. I'm trying to look at the Off-line Menu sony gave me, but there are items that don't show up unless the menu sees an actual switcher -- and of course this is one of them. The next time I see an 8000 I'll try to remember to look and get back to you. RE
Curt
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Bill, How about building it first w/ PGM/PST in the mix "enabled". Then at the end go back and turn it off. Same way we used to have to do it w/ the 4k ...build w/out source holds...then put them on at the end.. Just a thought. Curt