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DNF Controller / PBus / Loop Play

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Thu, 09/13/2007 - 12:25
ncory
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Does anyone know if it's possible to get a DNF ST300 DDR Controller to execute a loop via a PBus trigger?

The station I work at has a 4000CL-Q-PBIO model connected to a Quantel server that we use to call up our generic monitor fills. Currently, we use the panel itself to call up a clip and loop it, but I'd like to be able to do that from the switcher via PBus. I have the DNF connected and working with the switcher.

The manual lists the following triggers:
0 Play
1 Recue
2 Slo-mo
3 Reverse Play
4 Still Frame (stop)
5 Play
8 or greater Play

Triggers 0-4 work fine, but nothing at all happens when I send triggers 5-16. (It doesn't even just play normally, like the manual implies it should.) I was hoping trigger 5 might do a loop play, like with the Lance TDC and the ClipStore, but no such luck.

I know it's a longshot, but does anyone have any ideas on if this might somehow be possible? (The only thing we ever play out of this box is looping clips, so PBus control of it is kinda pointless without loop play.)

Thanks!

~nate

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Wed, 09/19/2007 - 11:54
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Bill D
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[quote="Steve Meyer"]Why not just call DNF? They'd probably be more than happy to modify the firmware to recognize the * (or any other character) and burn you a PROM.[/quote] I agree if your DNF is just a box that was not intended to work with Quantel, then it won't. Most of the DNF boxes are protocol specific, will only work with odetics, or louth or whatever. Either way not sure if Quantel can be run that way or not. Find out from Quantel if they can be run in odetics, amp, louth, etc. Then contact DNF, to get you software to support what Quantel is running. If this box was made to support Quantel then ask why it isn't.
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Tue, 09/18/2007 - 19:11
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Steve Meyer
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Why not just call DNF? They'd probably be more than happy to modify the firmware to recognize the * (or any other character) and burn you a PROM.
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Tue, 09/18/2007 - 10:03
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chadrm
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In this example, the DNF ST-300 is running a pair of Quantel ClipBox channels not controlled by the Quantel "Janice" panel that comes with the system. Essentially, it's a 6-port box (3 V+K pairs) that had two largely unused ports as delivered/configured. Not sure of the Quantel communication protocol. The * trick never seemed to work in Quantel, but I think I've seen it work with Profile. Maybe the * option in the DNF is a leftover menu from its life as a Profile controller? I'm making the guess that DNF started with the Profile version of this ST-300 and then ported the firmware to support the Quantel. It'd be neat if we could make this work, though. Any Quantel server experts out there? Chad
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Mon, 09/17/2007 - 18:43
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Bill D
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Oh this isn't a profile or something. What protocol does Quantel server run. I am guesing this DNF software is specific to the Quantel server? If so there are saying to go into the Quantel and when you name the clip add the * to the end of the clip name. I think this is how you did loops with a profile in native mode a long time ago. So in theory once you set it up in the quantel you will be good to go for those clips. What I was referring to is most DNF controllers that talk to odetics or louth servers, allow you to tell the cue point whether to play normal or loop, and then for how many times to loop. If asterik doesn't work, look for this feature (set a loop within cuepoint)
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Mon, 09/17/2007 - 13:22
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ncory
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[quote="Bill D"]You need to send a play command as normal. The DNF box needs to have the loop built into it's cue point that you are recalling. If you can do it on the panel, then put that cue info into a cuepoint between 0-99. That should be a one for one P-bus recall from a switcher emem. Do the recall and send the play command. Bill[/quote] Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't seem to save the loop into a cue point. I loaded a clip, hit "Loop Enable", and then saved to a cue point (19, if it matters) as normal, but when I recalled the cue, a normal play command via PBus (and via the panel) do not kick it into a loop. I also tried calling up a clip, looping it, and then doing a PBus Learn from the switcher - that didn't work either. The manual does say: "If the clip ID ends with an asterisk (?*?), it will automatically loop when either [LOOP ENABLE] or [PLAY] is pressed." I tried renaming the clip on the Quantel server to have an asterisk on the end, but still no loop play.
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Thu, 09/13/2007 - 15:17
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Bill D
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You need to send a play command as normal. The DNF box needs to have the loop built into it's cue point that you are recalling. If you can do it on the panel, then put that cue info into a cuepoint between 0-99. That should be a one for one P-bus recall from a switcher emem. Do the recall and send the play command. Bill
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