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Another Fast Forward Anomaly

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Mike Cumbo
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Client walked in with FF drives Wednesday, everything seemed OK. What was weird is that the show open animation audio was at least five times louder and hotter then anything else on the drives. Production said all the elements were loaded at the same time, same tape. Elements before and after the open sounded normal. TC was consistent, no sign of someone trying to insert a new version of the open over another version. All other elements were OK.

Lou Delgresiano
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I had the only, timecode not matching, being about 00:00:03.20 off on each clip. I know of the offset, but after fishing around, reseating the drives and resetting the box, all my clips we accessed back in their original home again...odd.
Mike Cumbo
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As I was told, they have used these drives without issue for several months. The only element that was affected was the open, in the middle of a 45 minute or so rip. Elements before and after this one were good. Just a little weird.
Lou Delgresiano
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Beautiful thing about DDRs is you can always blame tape and audio :)
Mongo
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I would tend to agree with NYC. Most likely the open was recorded hotter than the rest of the elements, so the offenders went into "cover your ass" mode.
NYC Television ...
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[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Client walked in with FF drives Wednesday, everything seemed OK. What was weird is that the show open animation audio was at least five times louder and hotter then anything else on the drives. Production said all the elements were loaded at the same time, same tape. Elements before and after the open sounded normal. TC was consistent, no sign of someone trying to insert a new version of the open over another version. All other elements were OK.[/quote] so heres my two cents: Perhaps you weren't dealing with a FF anomaly. I would tend to think that the discrepancy in audio levels originated with the tape and not the FF. Did the production team bring the elements on tape as a back up or even to compare levels? The fact that as you say " all the elements were loaded at the same time on the same tape" does NOT mean that they were recorded with proper levels in the first place. I find that in this digital age we live in everything is set to "auto-mode" and it seems fewer people actually QC anything any more ? audio levels in particular, more often than not it is an after thought. Back in my day we QC'ed everything, and we liked it! (said as dana carvey's grumpy old man character) [url]http://video.aol.com/partner/hulu/saturday-night-live-grumpy-old-man/kLnrkNO3CTTRhXemfSGdK4QJfhTW5VbP[/url] I now step off my soap box.
Mike Cumbo
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Lou, the production team blocked my way to the machine, MUST PRE TAPE FOR PRE GAME SHOW!!! NOW!!!!, but if I recalled clip 10, show open, and ran it it was over driven, recall any other clip and things were normal. Production said that they use the drives all the time and never had an issue. What sucks is that this truck used to have a 2 ch Wohler next to the TD for FF monitoring. Engineering had to "steal it" for use in tape for the trucks main client.
Lou Delgresiano
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Did you happen to take a look at the VU meters on the Omega? Were they over driven as well, or was it the hardware audio outputs of the box having extra gain?