[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Do you have Double Take? If so, you can work around this. Yes it means modifying things but if you put key 4 on the B side, re-enter PGM Primary into PGM Secondary and you do not have Key 4 on the Primary side the switcher should ignore the state of that keyer.[/quote] The way that this is normally shown at demos is to re-enter the secondary side as a keyer back into the primary; as you normally want your final output to be the PGM primary side - I could see using the PGM secondary as the FINAL output, but that means re-patching or re-programming the switcher output to be PGM B...not something that is normally done, as it will cause a 1-line drop because of the M/E unrestricted re-entry. The only disadvantage of bringing the secondary back into the primary is that while the PGM key 4 is being used on the secondary, the layered secondary must be brought back into the primary as another keyer...thus you are using up 2 keyers instead of one...one to create Key 4 & another to bring it back into the Primary side as Key 1, Key 2, or Key 3.

Mike, That is a great idea!

Do you have Double Take? If so, you can work around this. Yes it means modifying things but if you put key 4 on the B side, re-enter PGM Primary into PGM Secondary and you do not have Key 4 on the Primary side the switcher should ignore the state of that keyer.

Thanks guys, I was hoping I wouldn't have to go to macros. I have a bug on key 4 which I don't want to be affected by a number of timelines that are on PGM PST. I guess you could put it down to better planning on my part, but I was hoping to be able to simply mod some keyframes rather than start from scratch and write new macros. Cheers Brian

[quote="offshaw"]Hi all, I have a really simple question for all you Kalypso gurus. How do I stop an emem from recalling the state of a keyer, whether it's on or off. i.e. I have an emem on PGM/PST which I want it to ignore whether key 4 is on or off. At the moment it cuts the key on when I run the timeline. On the sony I simply turn off the path for that keyer, I've tried turning off all the path attributes on key 4 on the Kalypso but it still cuts the key on when I run the timeline. Sounds like I really simple question and I'm sure there's a really simple solution! Thanks Brian[/quote] depending on your emem and what you are trying to do, work around would be to use macros, you could insert them within a timeline to do what you need to do, including menu functions. Should allow you to workaround this limitation

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this isn't possible in GVG world. Emems recall the state of the entire M/E, including whether or not the keyers are on or off. Once upon a time, there was a concept called "partial keyframing", where each parameter of a timeline's level (in this case, the M/E) would have its own sub-timeline, so each parameter could be affected or not based on how the operator programmed the emem. Partial keyframing never came to be on the Kalypso, unfortunately. What is your applicaton? Many of us have come up with workarounds for this "limitation". For example, many of us use P/P key 4 for the telestrator in sports broadcasts. Our workaround for having the keyer always active is to put a source hold on key 4, then have a source mapped in the switcher which is configured as black for both the fill and key. So, the practical result is that we can punch this source on key 4 and the key "disappears". Happy switching! -Steve

Yeah, there's a cross point hold but all that does is hold the keyer cross points, it doesn't hold it's state of whether it's on or off.

Isn't there something similar to a Sony "XPT Hold" button on the panel of the Kalypso?