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TBS ALCS Game 6 Broadcast Problems

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MM
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Can anyone decode what really happened from reports that are out there?

TX issues from FL?

MC issues in ATL?

...just curious.

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[quote="hosko"][quote="jwillis"]For some odd reason the Americans just don't do SD in a 16:9 format. I don't get it at all, but as far as I know only 1 company has just started doing 16:9 SD. I sort of wonder why. I heard the idea that "there are so many 4:3 viewers we can't upset them", but as it is almost impossible to buy 4:3 CRTs any more and the USA switches off analogue transmission next year I rather feel this is off the mark. Surely if you have to have a set-top box that's where it gets fixed and if you buy a new TV why wouldn't you buy an HD ready 16:9? I know it is quite an important subject in the US, but I struggle to understand it. John[/quote] I was more meaning is TBS not producing the games in HD. Seems odd to have the finals series of a major American sporting event not produced in HD. If the hot dog eating competition is in HD, and quite frankly that's one event where the extra clarity isn't wanted surely the ALCS should be.[/quote] The games were being produced in HD.
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[quote="hosko"][quote="jwillis"]For some odd reason the Americans just don't do SD in a 16:9 format. I don't get it at all, but as far as I know only 1 company has just started doing 16:9 SD. I sort of wonder why. I heard the idea that "there are so many 4:3 viewers we can't upset them", but as it is almost impossible to buy 4:3 CRTs any more and the USA switches off analogue transmission next year I rather feel this is off the mark. Surely if you have to have a set-top box that's where it gets fixed and if you buy a new TV why wouldn't you buy an HD ready 16:9? I know it is quite an important subject in the US, but I struggle to understand it. John[/quote] I was more meaning is TBS not producing the games in HD. Seems odd to have the finals series of a major American sporting event not produced in HD. If the hot dog eating competition is in HD, and quite frankly that's one event where the extra clarity isn't wanted surely the ALCS should be.[/quote] heheh.... Hot Dog Eating Comp.... quite frankly INDEED!!

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[quote="hosko"]I was more meaning is TBS not producing the games in HD. Seems odd to have the finals series of a major American sporting event not produced in HD. If the hot dog eating competition is in HD, and quite frankly that's one event where the extra clarity isn't wanted surely the ALCS should be.[/quote] How many cable/satellite systems carry TBS in HD, and/or do they even have the infrastructure to do a live broadcast in HD? I agree that this was something they should have taken care of before they picked up a major sports contract. Actually, I question MLB's decision to give TBS the contract in the first place... Were they seriously the best bid they could get out of ALL the major networks? The playoffs of a major American sport not being available over the air is downright stupid... Though I suppose moving MNF off the air set the precedent for that.
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[quote="jwillis"]For some odd reason the Americans just don't do SD in a 16:9 format. I don't get it at all, but as far as I know only 1 company has just started doing 16:9 SD. I sort of wonder why. I heard the idea that "there are so many 4:3 viewers we can't upset them", but as it is almost impossible to buy 4:3 CRTs any more and the USA switches off analogue transmission next year I rather feel this is off the mark. Surely if you have to have a set-top box that's where it gets fixed and if you buy a new TV why wouldn't you buy an HD ready 16:9? I know it is quite an important subject in the US, but I struggle to understand it. John[/quote] I was more meaning is TBS not producing the games in HD. Seems odd to have the finals series of a major American sporting event not produced in HD. If the hot dog eating competition is in HD, and quite frankly that's one event where the extra clarity isn't wanted surely the ALCS should be.
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[quote="Mike Cumbo"]What is interesting is that I have watched shows on VH1 that they have bought from the UK that has been done in 16x9 and they show it without aspect correction. Lots of tall thin people.[/quote] Do people not notice this, or do they just not care? I know that pretty much zero consumers know anything about aspect ratios or even HD... I can't begin to count how many high-end HDTVs I've been shown by their proud owners, only to break the news that they've been watching composite NTSC the whole time. It blows their minds when I hook up the HDMI and they see what HD actually looks like. But you'd think that people in the broadcast industry would have a bit more of an eye for it...
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John, Comcast SportsNet has done SD 16x9 for several years. Most of their regionals do it at various times. Usually when they are doing road games and their budgets don't allow for HD trucks or transmission. I actually did a college football game 16x9 SD out of their HD truck, if that makes sense. What is interesting is that I have watched shows on VH1 that they have bought from the UK that has been done in 16x9 and they show it without aspect correction. Lots of tall thin people.
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Here you go, Link: Both routers in ATL went down due to two blown circuits. Not sure how they are wired but I would think even without a router they would have a patch panel that could be used in this situation.
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[quote="MM"]Can anyone decode what really happened from reports that are out there? TX issues from FL? MC issues in ATL? ...just curious.[/quote] We were broadcasting the game in Australia. From what I have been able to work out is that there was a massive problem at TBS's Atlanta Facility, we were meant to be receiving a front haul feed from TBS (don't ask me why) and then all hell broke lose and they went to Seinfeld. Luckily we were able to organise a downlink from the back haul feed from the ball park and managed to have that sent over fibre back to us. We thought it was rather amusing that in Australia you could keep watching the match but in America you missed out. Just out of curiosity is TBS only producing the ALCS in 4:3 SD, for some reason we can only get a 4:3 SD feed out of them.