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Strange Effects Happenings

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Wed, 10/29/2008 - 12:53
AJR
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So to prefix my problem... I'm on an 8kG running v7.2 software and I can't use macros to fix my problem.

So I'm doing an election show with oodles of cameras, graphics sources and remotes. I managed to cram everything I'll need quick access to on my unshifted side. I have 6 tape decks that live on my shifted side. They're probably the only thing there that I will need to take full. So I built 6 one keyframe effects and 6 shotbox registers that correspond to each of my decks. All these effects do is preset one of six tape decks. In the path menu, I turned the curve off on everything except my B bus. I hit the shotbox, it presets what I want exactly how I want.

So for example, I have Cam 1 online. I hit my shotbox that presets "Alpha" for me. If I hit cut our the auto button, it changes sources fine. If I hit the shotbox to preset "Beta", it puts whatever I had in PVW online (in this case, cam 1) back online and presets "Beta". It doesn't matter which source I go from to the tape deck. It always puts it back on PGM and presets what I want.

I am able to work around it though. I turn the path on BKGD/UTIL, put XPT holds on everything in the BKGD/UTIL sub menu except for my B bus. That seems to fix the problem. I just don?t get why the first way wouldn?t work.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Allan

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Fri, 10/31/2008 - 12:34
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AJR
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Due to the way we have to talk to our DDR's, we have to use macros instead of traditional timelines for our transitions. The DDR takes two seconds or so to cue so we can't hot fire transitions. So because of this, we have to put a "0" pause (basically, a user wait) in the macro. When you're sitting on a 0 pause, you're locked out of every other macro. If I have a transition cued, I don't want to have to worry about aborting out of a macro, hitting the macro for the tape deck, and recalling the macro for the transition.
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Fri, 10/31/2008 - 10:47
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hosko
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For my own development why wouldn't a macro work in this situation??
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Thu, 10/30/2008 - 10:49
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Bob Ennis
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[quote="AJR"]Bob... I didn't have XPT hold on for the A bus but the path was off. If the path is off, it should ignore the A bus... right?[/quote] That's correct - turning off the path will stop the A bus from changing. I just wasn't sure if the path OFF was doing some other unexpected things too.

Bob Ennis

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Wed, 10/29/2008 - 19:57
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Bill D
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[quote="AJR"]Bill... it was a PGM/PST effect. Decks are mapped on shifted side. Dual BKG bus... ha! That thing totally screws me up. .[/quote] Get used to it now, good time no??
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Wed, 10/29/2008 - 13:52
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AJR
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Bill... it was a PGM/PST effect. Decks are mapped on shifted side. Dual BKG bus... ha! That thing totally screws me up. Bob... I didn't have XPT hold on for the A bus but the path was off. If the path is off, it should ignore the A bus... right? The only reason I went the 1kf effect route was because the snapshot will kick my transition module and that would be really really bad.
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Wed, 10/29/2008 - 13:32
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Bob Ennis
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I assume that you also have the XPT HOLD turned on for the A bus, but beyond that you may want to try using snapshots in place of the 1 keyframe effects. Then under the snapshots ATTRIBUTES, turn on XPT HOLD for everything except the B bus. In this case, have your shotbox recall snapshots instead of keyframe effects.

Bob Ennis

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Wed, 10/29/2008 - 13:32
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Bill D
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This is a PGM/PSt effect right? I have seen this in the past, but it was sporadic Are these decks still mapped, or you took them out? Could run in dual bgd bus mode? what I am doing
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