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Advice/guidance on Input Table Sets....

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Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:13
Brian Mirrlees
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Hi:

Our facility will soon be doing two completely different newscasts back to back with radically different resources.

Currently we are studio based with conventional camera resources, Deko font, and Thunder graphics.

We will continue to do the current conventional show, but when the new cast is added, it will be remote anchored/based from another city but co-ordinated from our current control room.
It will be a virtual set based studio scenario with 3 camera/Orad/Ultimatte chains... I will also need to have the clean cameras in the switcher as well, in the event of a crash with the Orads (switcher generated chromakeys for each camera as back-ups) The new show will not use Thunder graphics at all... as well as our current location custom traffic and city beauty cameras.

We are working on a Sony MVS-8000G, with ver. 7.22 software.

I will have 3 minutes to turn my current local show load around to the set-up requirements for the new show. Doing a full load from the Switcher HDD takes about 5 minutes... so thats a no go.

I have also experimented with locked SHIFTED busses for P/P and all M/Es, and required Aux busses. I would have to map the required resources (new sources and current sources that would now be common) to the shifted side of the current bus assignment, One thing with this is that I would have to rebuild current snaps for some current transisitons... direct rolls from server playouts, key flys, etc.

I've also tried building the alternate custom set-up in a different Input Table Set. I think this holds the most promise for me... I can easily re-set to the new table set on required busses in a relatively short period of time... 15 to 20 seconds.... Also, alot of my current effects and snaps that couyld be common to both shows will work without modification... I like that too!!! I will have to build some new show specific effects and recalls relative to the alternate Input Table Set, but that is to be expected.

So, from what I've experimented with, I think I'm leaning towards an alternate Input Table recall.

Can anyone provide advice on this... pros / cons... do it, don't do it.... got'chas etc. or provide a another idea or solution.

I'm still relatively new on the Sony... so as the training wheels are coming off, I still need the blocks on the pedals for a wee bit longer.

thanks in advance,

b.

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Wed, 11/04/2009 - 20:13
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Curt
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[quote="Matt Saplin"]I like Bob's thoughts, and may have to steal a few of his ideas. :-) One other thought ... I've been caught before by macro attachments. If you do use a different table and you have macros attached to your keyer busses, don't forget that you'll have to recall or reattach your macro attachments, too.[/quote] Matt...this was a question I had also. I assumed since your macro attachments are tied to sources, that a table mapping change will change your attachments..and make some/all useless (depending on what has changed). So I guess you could just have a macro attach file for each table..
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Sun, 10/18/2009 - 10:20
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Bob Ennis
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Glad that it worked for you. Yes, linking the macro types via the off-line edit is the only way to accomplish the link as far as I know.

Bob Ennis

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Sun, 10/18/2009 - 10:03
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Brian Mirrlees
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Thanks Bob!!! The table set change works great... the panel macro linked to menu PREF is SWEET!!! The only problem I had was linking the menu macro to the panel macro... I gave up on the on-line edit, and did it off-line (MenuMacroRun # 38) Recall is about 1 second... can't beat that. Thanks again, b.
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Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:38
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XLNTeditor
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That sounds like the same thing Global TV has been doing in Canada for the past year. Do you know any TDs that work there? They should have the info you're looking for. Irv
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Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:54
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Matt Saplin
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I like Bob's thoughts, and may have to steal a few of his ideas. :-) One other thought ... I've been caught before by macro attachments. If you do use a different table and you have macros attached to your keyer busses, don't forget that you'll have to recall or reattach your macro attachments, too.
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Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:33
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Bob Ennis
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The use of different input tables may be your best bet. If you use a menu macro to do the table changes, you can cut down your turnaround time to maybe 2 seconds or less. The menu macros can also get you set up for locked shifted buses. If you go one step further & attach the menu macro to a panel macro, then attach the panel macro to a button on either the Utility Module or the User Buttons on the menu, calling up the different configurations would be a breeze. If you take your existing snapshots & effects & copy them to different banks and then edit them for your 2nd newscast, you can then run one show from one group of banks (such as banks 0,1,2,3, & 4) & the other show from another set of banks(such as banks 5, 6, 7, & 8). In this way, one show load will get you set up for your 2 shows.

Bob Ennis

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