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Here is my current problem:
I'm trying to setup 3 boxes that all need to zoom back and up independently. The catch is all of them have to have a keyed image over the top coming from an FM.
What we are doing currently is using an ME to do all the keying, ie Key 1 over A bus, Key 2 over B Bus and Key 3 over Utl 2 and using multiple outs of that ME.
These are then used as sources into another ME and ran through 3 channels of DME to fly them in and out. When one of the boxes is becoming full screen we use a resizer on the first ME to expand the box so you can see it on screen.
This works however we a tieing up 2 ME's and we only have a 3 ME desk. Does anybody have any ideas how we can do this on a single ME or is it simply impossible?
Thanks
Some stupid questions here. Does the ME have to be in MP2 mode or just multi program?? We are running 1080i50 so we shouldn't have the 720p problem.
Hello, I am 99.9% sure you need to be in multi pgm 2..( not in front of the switcher).The option you need to turn on is Multi Pgm 2 rentry regardless. ..This allows you to renter outputs of the same M/E back into that M/E. Keep in mind if you don't run w/ "Recall M/E Config" on ....your settings for this M/E...ie to run in MP2 will not be recalled w/ a snap or effect...so if you use this M/E for other things, you may get stuck in other ways. Turning this mode on, allows snaps/effects to recall the "mode" of the M/E..etc..I ran into all sorts of re-entry issues due to what I found out was a bandwidth restriction w/ 720p. It was one of those things where you could get most of the effect built...but the last step would give you issues. YOu literally couldn't preset and M/E...but undo something on your effect, ( ie release a re-entry) you would be ok..
You are correct you need to be in MP2 as animations on keys which are on for the PRV bus will not animate, they only step between states when in MP mode.
On another note has anybody experienced the MP2 license deleting itself off the switcher, I'm sure we had it enabled a couple of weeks ago and now its not licensed.
A few questionsDo you have Multi program 2Are your DME's external, or internal or a combo of both Also, are you using one FM for all boxes...or is it one FM ( or a FM pair) for one box, a second pair for another etc...as in what you would have if your boxes were topical, or had locators on them, w/ each one being different. Curt
Yes we have multi program 2. We have 4 channels of internal DME only. The one pair of FM's are supply the edge for all 3 boxes. The locators are being handled separately by the Chyron and aren't be flown.
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If you have your other DME free...I would try this..
Set up the same way w/ Keys 1-3 on M/E 1 ( fed A, B and U2 buses)
Setup M/E 1 so Key 4 is over all other keys.
Stack up DME's 1, 2, 3, and 4 on M/E 1 key 4
DME's 1 2 3 are your flies like they are now.
DME 4...have full frame, and under the other 3 DME's.
Use MP2 rentry, to allow you to renter M/E sources on the same M/E
Take M/E 1 key4 out of any DME 1-3 feeds.
DME 4 gets whatver you were keying DME's over in the other M/E. ( animation I assume) Take M/E 1 to air
A few gotchas...if you are running 720p you are most likely going to have trouble feeding all the sources back in. You may have to use physical loop backs.
If you are running 720p, and the above works, be sure to check to make sure you can take your other M/E's to air..etc..or any other output of the M/E...or internal sources like the switcher color correctors..if you have those.
I ran into the issue here, and had to use loopbacks..