Kayenne Next Transition question
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I have a question about the way the next transition section works. If you double-punch the background button in the next transition section it will light up any key that is currently turned on. That way you can transition clean fairly easily. Does anyone know if there is a way to disable 1 of the keyers from being affected by the double-punch? The reason I ask is for dual-feed situations with a Tele. I would normally have the Tele on all the time on PGM/PST (which is where I also cut the whole show). It sure would be nice to be able to use the double-punch option to dissolve clean of any key EXCEPT always leaving the Tele hot.
Thanks for any insight.
--Mike
As far as I know there isn't a way to do this, but if Grass Valley is listening, I'd like to +1 that feature for the exact same reason.
This is not the first time I have heard this request. So let me ask a couple of questions;
I would put this in the Panel User Interactions category because that is where the function is enabled. BTW - if you DPOP Priority you only "collect" the keys. Would that work?
Should it be that you could exclude any combination of keys?
Should each partition have the ability to do this using a different rule?
In the Kayenne you may already know that E-MEM does always win - so for instance, if you have a bus link set up you will always get the sources to follow according to the source table you use - but if you have made an E-MEM before you link or while a link is disabled with source selections that odn't match the source table they will be selected on recall.
No guarantees, but I can ask the Development guys.
John
Hi John,
I think it would work best (at least for me) as a preference menu per M/E. Similar to how the Key Drop on the Kalypso worked (by the way, where has that gone on the Kayenne?). You can select, for each M/E, which keyer would drop on the next cut. So, similarly, you could select which keyer (or keyers) on each M/E would not be selected with the BKND double-punch. From my perspective it doesn't need to be more sophisticated than that.
Understood about EMEMs having ultimate control. This would really be just for a normal next transition preset.
Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike, sorry for the lag.
My thinking is to try to put it in the Panel User Interactions menu tab with each ME Partition having a setting per key. That way it isn't something whiich is easy to accidentally change during a show.
Key Drop is part of Source Rules. You can specify per source per Partition which keyers are left as-is, dropped or - more usefully - added on cuts or transitions. It is quite a lot more powerful than key drop and allows you to over-ride the rules you build by disabling Source Rules per partition if you want to or merely by resetting the "next transition" if the rule doesn't suit for the next thing you want to do. A single source rule for a given camera or server channel can add some keys, drop some keys and leave some as-is. The really neat thing is that Look-Ahead-Preview really does work with Source Rules.
Cheers, John
Thanks John.
That would be great if that can get put in there!
As for key drop... I know the source rules are very powerful. But, they can be time-consuming to build. The key-drop is especially handy on entertainment shows because they are very scripted and typically you would only have a font in on a particular shot in a sequence and always cut clean to the next camera (but different patterns in different acts preclude you from building source rules based on specific cameras). Obviously there are ways to do this, but I know a few TD's that I work with that would like to have the simple "Key Drop" function come back.
--Mike
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How would the switcher know what keyer to leave unaffected? Your idea would require a section in the keyer menu or somewhere else. Next question, do you make this a function that can be changed by E-Mem or once set, it is set? In other words, a user function or engineering function? Do you allow macros to affect it?
Not knocking the idea.