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Chyron XClyps

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jbs
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Anyone using Chyron XClyps with some kind of third party application or device that allows for better playlist control of this thing? This thing is FAST with PBUS and VDCP, but playlisting isn't so hot.

We have to stick with our VCS for a lot of things for its playlist control, but its much slower in cueing and playing. We'd like to move some of that stuff over to the XClyps but we'd lose our ability to add/float/kill without imploding... much.

sahonen
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Oh, I'm not looking to buy, just curious. Ability to interface with physical shuttle controllers will be a biggie to potential clients however. Personally, I consider having to touch a mouse at all to be a huge downside to any product intended for use in a fast-paced environment. Your fingers are a lot faster and more accurate at manipulating things in meatspace than they will ever be at manipulating things with a mouse.
- Stephan Ahonen
BradySmall
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Ah, I see where your going.. Its all on how you mark. That's how I don't use a jog shuttle. You can keep temp marks and then trim and then store them. But if you need an external shuttle box with a T-Bar I can support it. Most of them use the generic Sony 9-Pin protocol. It would be easily adapted to allow you to control everything. When you were talking about DNF, they do have generic controllers as well as smarter controllers. I can listen to those controllers to allow a more back to the basics of "Hands on something". I've done a lot of VTR controlling and server control, it wouldn't be a big problem to add a plug-in to support a external controller if need be.
sahonen
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How did you wind up making it usable without some kind of physical knob or tbar to control it with? Does the mouse act as a full-time jog/shuttle and the rest of the application is keyboard shortcuts? That's the only way I can see it working.
- Stephan Ahonen
BradySmall
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No, we wrote it to replace the DNF completely. One advantage we have over the DNF when using Nexio servers is that if a server crashes or locks up, once you get it back up you have to start the channel back up with a new clip ID (since the nexio servers are mp2 I-Frame you can't append to recorded clips like you could with the older leitch VR300s).. The replay will see a new ID is loaded in the channel and just keep plugging away. At the time DNF couldn't detect this, and if you tried to cue a spot earlier in the same channel before the crash, it would still pull up the new id and not the old id, hence losing everything in that channel from the crash. Same problem if you wanted to cue that ID in a different channel. DNF might have fixed this problem, but I haven't done any research to back it up.
sahonen
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Brady, does the Bassbox replay system support the use of an external controller such as a DNF?
- Stephan Ahonen
BradySmall
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[url]http://www.bass-box.com/[/url] Will have support for XClyps in the end of March '08. Final testing is going on now Feb '08.
Clint Hendricks
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We've experienced the same problem. The Xclyps cues incredibly fast....but has very poor, or I would argue non existent, playlist control. We use the "selection list" to build the rudimentary "playlist," and then an Xkeys to cycle through the list, cue, play etc..... but this method only allows you to use a clip once per list - so to combat that we have made 5 copies of every animation and cycle through them. That's the best we have come up with - would love to hear if anyone else has found another solution. -Clint