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Kalypso V12 vs V14

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5mars
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I?ve been in a truck running V12 on a classic frame. The problem I had was that I have many EMEMs built on V14.0.0.1, so the switcher could not read those EMEMs. The EIC was not to enthousiastic with the idea of installing V14, but he kindly did anyway. The reason why he did not want to put V14 was that many TDs told him that there were issues with PBUS on V14 and they did not want to work with that version. Anyone knows what those issues might be?

JP

Ed Collins
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[quote="Bill D"][quote="Ed Collins"]I?d be real curious to see what issues there are with P-bus in v14. I used v14 during the entire College Hoops season with CBS ? including the Final 4 - and I did not have any P-bus issues. I also did quite a bit of testing in the labs for Grass and found it to be very stable. Bill Lance also re-wrote his software to accommodate v14 and now we can access all 300 registers on the Lance via the Kalypso. V14 also allows for multiple P-bus recalls within the same timeline. .[/quote] So does this mean the lance has to be upgraded as well? I am assuming so.[/quote] The Lance only has to be upgraded if you want to access registers above 99 via e-mem.
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Ed Collins
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[quote="5mars"]Thank you Ed, that is good help. One question, though: since there are now two ways of learning-recalling registers (EMEMs or keyframes), should'nt those buttons be toggling between each other? JP[/quote] That's not a bad idea, but the logic here is that both ways are easily seen by the operator at the same time. Hopefully that is a bit more intuitive while you're learning the new functionality.
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Travis Swenson
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Bill Lance provides a free upgrade provided that you have a registered S/N from his product and give him a FedEx/UPS account number to ship out the E-Proms for the upgrade. Tough part is just pulling out the 1RU frame and replacing the chips. There is nothing to it. Travis Swenson
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Bill D
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[quote="Dan Berger"][quote="Bill D"]So does this mean the lance has to be upgraded as well? I am assuming so.[/quote] From my understanding, the Lance does NOT need to be upgraded. You DO have to upgrade it in order to access any Lance Reg above #99. You can still access #00 - #99 in the way described. I could be wrong, but that's what I've heard. --- Dan[/quote] I should have done this sooner but there is a new update on the lance website, which allows you to access all 300 clips through P-bus amongst some other changes. Also free.. So hopefully any truck that has a lance and goes to V 14 upgrades their lance as well.
Dan Berger
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[quote="Bill D"]So does this mean the lance has to be upgraded as well? I am assuming so.[/quote] From my understanding, the Lance does NOT need to be upgraded. You DO have to upgrade it in order to access any Lance Reg above #99. You can still access #00 - #99 in the way described. I could be wrong, but that's what I've heard. --- Dan
5mars
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Thank you Ed, that is good help. One question, though: since there are now two ways of learning-recalling registers (EMEMs or keyframes), should'nt those buttons be toggling between each other? JP
Bill D
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[quote="Ed Collins"]I?d be real curious to see what issues there are with P-bus in v14. I used v14 during the entire College Hoops season with CBS ? including the Final 4 - and I did not have any P-bus issues. I also did quite a bit of testing in the labs for Grass and found it to be very stable. Bill Lance also re-wrote his software to accommodate v14 and now we can access all 300 registers on the Lance via the Kalypso. V14 also allows for multiple P-bus recalls within the same timeline. .[/quote] So does this mean the lance has to be upgraded as well? I am assuming so.
Ed Collins
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I?d be real curious to see what issues there are with P-bus in v14. I used v14 during the entire College Hoops season with CBS ? including the Final 4 - and I did not have any P-bus issues. I also did quite a bit of testing in the labs for Grass and found it to be very stable. Bill Lance also re-wrote his software to accommodate v14 and now we can access all 300 registers on the Lance via the Kalypso. V14 also allows for multiple P-bus recalls within the same timeline. Maybe the ?issues? are with learning the new software. Believe me, I know how tough it is to come in on a single set/shoot day and have to learn new software. In v14 you can operate the ?old? way by selecting Register-based Learn/Recall. The new way is Keyframe-based Learn/Recall. The big thing to remember is that (when using the new Keyframe based Learn/Recall) the Lance still needs to be on a one-to-one relationship with registers. So P-bus register 20 on the Kalypso always recalls register 20 on the Lance. Now the Kalypso can store P-bus register 20 in say, e-mem 01. Each keyframe can recall a different p-bus register. The Kalypso has 4096 P-bus registers, but the Lance can only use registers 0-299. So if you want your e-mem to recall register/cue #30 on the Lance then just enter a 30 in the P-bus register box, enable the Recall at KF button and learn your e-mem. Remember to turn off the recall at KF or the Kalypso will try to recall the Lance register/cue on every keyframe that this is enabled on. It?s just like the triggers where you can?t have, say, a re-cue on every keyframe or the Lance will constantly recue. Hopefully this helps.
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