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ME re-entry

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Michelle S.
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Is it possible to re-enter an ME out back into the same ME on a DVS-9000?

Michelle

jbs
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There are some limitations with MP2 free reentry in version 7.22. Your program/preview M/E (or any other M/E) also has to be in multi-program 2 mode before you can take an M/E that is using the re-entry feature. This is from experience and I might be doing something wrong, but I'd prefer not to run my P/P in MP2 mode. There is also a limitation on the number of M/Es that can use this feature when the switcher is in 720p mode. Thats from the manual - we're still SD here so I have no real experience on this, but I can imagine a situation right now where that would impact me. I have four loop-backs that I can stick with for the time being though.
Matt Saplin
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[quote="al_atl"]I was just trying to do this exact thing on a 8K. I'm not sure what version software we're running as I am at home right now. But did they ever add the ability to re-enter an ME on the same ME? I want to send the clean feed of an ME to a keyer on the same ME. Thanks in advance for your help.[/quote] I have successfully used the MP2 ME re-entry a bunch of times, it is quite helpful and very handy. I still have 3 physical "loop back" crosspoints from the days prior to the 7.22 upgrade, and do exactly as you are suggesting with feeding a clean output of an ME, into a keyer in the same ME. I think I see what you're asking, though ... I'm not sure that they've made the switcher outputs "virtual" so that you can map them as crosspoints, though (I just haven't bothered to look). One bump in the road and word of warning ... if you use a DME wipe on the 'sub' side of an ME and then recall a snapshot that isn't MP2 enabled, the DME channel remains acquired on the sub-ME, even-though you aren't technically in MP2 mode anymore. Not sure the best way around this other than to clear the sub-ME partition before doing anything else on the ME. Matt
MAXEIRP
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MPII free re-entry was added in version 7.20 which came out over a year ago. It is for the MVS8000A and G with the MPII option active. Menu7331 Engineering Setup > Switcher > Config menu; [MP2 Free Re-Entry]
Bob Ennis
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[quote="al_atl"]I was just trying to do this exact thing on a 8K. I'm not sure what version software we're running as I am at home right now. But did they ever add the ability to re-enter an ME on the same ME? I want to send the clean feed of an ME to a keyer on the same ME. Thanks in advance for your help.[/quote] I believe that I have seen this on the 8000G frame when it has the MPII option installed.

Bob Ennis

al_atl
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I was just trying to do this exact thing on a 8K. I'm not sure what version software we're running as I am at home right now. But did they ever add the ability to re-enter an ME on the same ME? I want to send the clean feed of an ME to a keyer on the same ME. Thanks in advance for your help.
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If some of your DME's are fed externally, you can feed an M/E back into itself. Works very well. We are split 4 and 4...internal to external. We use a clean back in one of the external channels to feed the big box in a "big box, little box " effect. Wish you could do it w/ the internals also.... I would really like to bring the clean back in to a key bus to be sent to a DME -Curt
Michelle S.
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I'm glad someone asked I was afraid to ask the engineers. They just ran over 200 cables to put the switcher in and I didn't want them to try that in case I was wrong. This will be cool. Thanks Bob.
Matt Saplin
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Bob is right! I, too, was told that they are most likely working on a software loopback for a future version of software. I was asking in reference to MPII, and re-entering the 'sub' ME to the 'main' ME. Right now, we just do as Bob does, and loop a physical output back in as a crosspoint for each 'sub' ME. Matt
Bob Ennis
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I use an 18" cable at the I/O of the frame. It's quick & easy.

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[quote="Bob Ennis"]My understanding is that this feature is in the works, but I don't know when we'll see it. In the meantime, I route an Aux output back in as an input -using an Aux lets you pick any output of an M/E as the source, and the M/E output can change depending on your effect.[/quote] Bob, How are you bringing the aux back in? From an external router that has your aux outputs on it? Or do you have a physcal cable looping back in? ( Output to Input) thank you Curt
Bob Ennis
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My understanding is that this feature is in the works, but I don't know when we'll see it. In the meantime, I route an Aux output back in as an input -using an Aux lets you pick any output of an M/E as the source, and the M/E output can change depending on your effect.

Bob Ennis