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Saved Switcher Setups

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JBJ
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I am just curious, do you keep a standard order of inputs, so you can travel timelines and emems? I have been trying to figure out ways to make setup go faster, and I am just looking to see how everyone else does it... Happy Switching...

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Mike Cumbo
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Some truck defaults aren't perfect. Some engineers know that their default have issues others don't. I always check for macros that are attached and I usually also erase all the E-Mems just in case there are some left hanging around.
Bob Ennis
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If you REALLY want to start from "square one" then you can do an NV drain. Instructions on the procedure are part of the Kalypso Install program that most likely already exists on the Windows Desktop of the Kalypso menu (shut down the Kalypso menu program to get there). It can be set to reset EVERYTHING or just parts of the Kalypso Non-Volitile memory. I would HIGHLY suggest making sure that you DO NOT include the ENG setup as part of the NV drain, as depending on the EIC this could significantly (and understandibly) shorten your career as well as your lifespan.

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JBJ
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I have only come across one truck that I think had version 12. It was HDnet's truck, I could however be wrong. I just was making sure I had all my bases covered and I looked at TVG website to see what versions were available. I haven't saved any timelines or emems yet because I haven't defined a "default button map" yet. So far I have been changing a little show to show, and since I have been doing every sport imaginable, for every client I haven't had any consistency yet. I figured I need to make my setups more consistent so that I am not constantly handcuffing myself. On this same topic, what is the best way to reset the switcher to the "truck default" I have been loading the truck default but still running into random macro attachments and such, I try to clear all attachments but I think I am missing something. Since I am just starting to get into kalypso shows on a regular basis, I just want to ensure that life is easy...thanks everyone!

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Bob Ennis
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[quote="Mike Cumbo"]What truck is still running 12? The only versions I have seen in the last year or so have been v14 and v15. One thing to be aware of IF you load a setup from say a switcher set for 16/9 to box running in the 4/3 world that certain wipe values and crop values will be out of whack. The same goes if you go 4/3 to 16/9. TE values are also "wrong". I think just going into DAILY SETUP and changing the aspect Ratio will correct this. (I can't remember right now.)[/quote] Mike, you're right about trucks not going all the way back to v.12 - I haven't seen v.12 in a long time either - I was only making the point about older software working in a newer version (back to something ancient like v.9 or v.7 at which point it breaks down). But as I recall, changing the switcher aspect unfortunately won't affect any previously built 4/3 effects...you need to manually change the settings & MOD ALL (or as necessary). You also will need to update the Unity Keyframe, as while the wipe aspect will be changed immediately in the work buffer, any holdovers from a 4/3 or a 16/9 setup such as DPM crops will keep being recalled that way when you do a CWB - at least when going from a SD 4/3 setup into a system running 16/9 HD (if you're staying in SD but going between 4/3 & 16/9, then Mike's suggestion may work just fine). I'm on a HD Kalypso tomorrow & I'll try loading an older setup to verify this...if I'm wrong about this I'll correct what I'm saying here, but I'm pretty sure that this is how it works (at least on the HD side), as I run into this exact issue a lot. OK, I checked this in both SD & HD. Mike's call is right on...changing aspect will change crops, if you do nothing else. But if you have a previously loaded effect or setup, which overrides the work buffer settings, you'll still see some issues and will have to modify the default keyframe and any effects whose aspect is other than the current switcher settings.

Bob Ennis

Mike Cumbo
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[quote="tv9director"]Will a Setup I just saved on an HD Kalypson (v15) work on v12? Should I have a separate setup for each version?[/quote] What truck is still running 12? The only versions I have seen in the last year or so have been v14 and v15. One thing to be aware of IF you load a setup from say a switcher set for 16/9 to box running in the 4/3 world that certain wipe values and crop values will be out of whack. The same goes if you go 4/3 to 16/9. TE values are also "wrong". I think just going into DAILY SETUP and changing the aspect Ratio will correct this. (I can't remember right now.)
Bob Ennis
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Files saved in lower-numbered versions will work with newer versions, but not vice-versa. You will probably want to either have separate files for each version or else have a "good" file at an older version & use that on the newer versions. Just remember that older files won't have some of the features of the newer software, so you may get a few surprises depending on the features that you use.

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JBJ
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Will a Setup I just saved on an HD Kalypson (v15) work on v12? Should I have a separate setup for each version?

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[quote="Steve Meyer"]On the Kalypso, ever since 7.4 (or whatever version introduced Source Patching), I bult a generic source table for myself. I left room for 30 cameras, 20 tape machines, 6 channels of graphics, 2 bugs, and however many "misc" sources (net return, frame syncs, my iPod, etc.). I also have my common button mapping. Whatever Kalypso I'm on, I load my suite and user prefs, and my switcher comes up exactly the way I like - all I need to do is patch my sources. My original source patching table has served me well over the years. It's my "clean slate" to start building a show.[/quote] Ditto ... loading a configuration (suite and user preferences) that you make yourself makes life easier going from truck to truck and show to show. Then all emems/macros you save from there on can be moved from one show to another if you use the same saved configuration.
Steve Meyer
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On the Kalypso, ever since 7.4 (or whatever version introduced Source Patching), I bult a generic source table for myself. I left room for 30 cameras, 20 tape machines, 6 channels of graphics, 2 bugs, and however many "misc" sources (net return, frame syncs, my iPod, etc.). I also have my common button mapping. Whatever Kalypso I'm on, I load my suite and user prefs, and my switcher comes up exactly the way I like - all I need to do is patch my sources. My original source patching table has served me well over the years. It's my "clean slate" to start building a show.
Mike Cumbo
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For NBA and NHL we use NCP trucks, I have two "default" setups, one for each SD truck we get with a Kalypso. I might build a HD set up for next year. Most timelines I just build one and then copy. I don't want to keep track of setups in regards to do the E-Mems have a tele or not and if so, what color is the tele. Since few trucks re-enter either or both of the background generators I usually do a matte fill to color a tele. Tele, wait... is it a Finger Works or Codi? Do I color it or does the tele? What about drop shadow?? Too much, I deal with it on site. Now, if I know that I will see the same show again, I do save my setup and cheat sheets.
branedamag
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It's one of those things that seems like a good idea but I wonder, given all the differences from truck to truck and show to show, whether it's worthwhile. Every switcher should have a default setup to load, which might be a better place to start. I once floated the idea of doing some standard setups with duals but there was so much variation involved that everyone agreed it was pretty pointless. If you save your standard setups from each truck, you might be better off. Grab a fistful of zips and have at it.
XLNTeditor
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I like to save my Crosspoint Map as a one-to-one mapping. Input 1 = xpt 1 and input 20 = xpt 20 and so on. This is where I map my video/key pairs too. Then I use separate Button Maps on each M/E to place the crosspoints where I want on specific buttons. I'll make up a button map for my aux panels too. Irv