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8K Shift buttons

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Bill D
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Just curious about the shift buttons on a 8K. I thought there was a way to un map the shift button and use the smaller shift button on the panel (above ME 1). Well you can un map shift, but that other shift button seems to do nothing but shift the display.
Anyway to get button 32 back and still have a shift?

Rick Edwards
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[quote="AJR"]There's one more big issue that comes up when running your shift button like this. The aux panel winds up getting all screwed up. For whatever reason, you can't feed a shifted source to an internal DME through the backsplash. I don't know about external DME's because I don't have any. Normally, the top row of buttons is the unshifted side and the bottom row is the shifted side. It works fine when feeding aux's, your FM inputs and Edit PVW but for some reason, when you hit the bottom row of buttons when feeding a DME, it still puts the unshifted source in there. The small shift button on the backsplash still only serves as a display shift. Sony was made aware of the issue.[/quote] Curt, When you feed the DME with an Aux bus, the aux bus immediately goes into a "Near/Far" routing mode. If you look closely at the colors of the buttons, you should see that the top row is amber and the bottom row turns green. This is for top/near and bottom/far (green kind of relates to green tally for preview). When you're in this mode, you hold the SHIFT button down like a normal crosspoint row. RE
AJR
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Curt... I never looked at it like that. I know the keyer itself doesn't have a shift button but on the XPT modules, when you make the display shift your actual shift button, it shifts all bus's including your keyers. It's just weird that it doesn't work on the backsplash. It's like the backsplash is in Dual BKG bus mode on everything except for the DME's. I've tried messing around in the ENG Setup/Panel/Aux Assign menu but some functionality is missing. I think that's the problem. In your table assign, you can set the XPT shift button to hold, lock, or off, And you can set the shift button next to the display to display shift or shift all bus. In the ENG Setup/Panel/Aux assign menu, you have a shift mode option for hold, lock, or off... but there's nothing about the display shift. -Allan
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I would guess this is because technically the DME's as destinations on the backsplash are extensions of the keybus that is assigned to feeding the DME I think...since the keybus doesn't have a shift on them...the Aux panel must be getting confused? Curt
AJR
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There's one more big issue that comes up when running your shift button like this. The aux panel winds up getting all screwed up. For whatever reason, you can't feed a shifted source to an internal DME through the backsplash. I don't know about external DME's because I don't have any. Normally, the top row of buttons is the unshifted side and the bottom row is the shifted side. It works fine when feeding aux's, your FM inputs and Edit PVW but for some reason, when you hit the bottom row of buttons when feeding a DME, it still puts the unshifted source in there. The small shift button on the backsplash still only serves as a display shift. Sony was made aware of the issue.
Bill D
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Ahhh.. thank you.. Yeah so why can't it react like the regular shift button. Software upgrade maybe.
AJR
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Yeah... it's a little tricky to do but it's how we're running our setup across the street. Go to Eng setup, Panel, Xpoint Assign, and select whatever table or tables you're using. Towards the bottom of that window, you'll see "XPT Shift Mode" and "Display Shift Mode" Make sure "XPT Shift Mode" is turned off. this will get rid of your shift button on the 32nd crosspoint. Also change "Display Shift Mode" to shift all bus. This will now turn the small display shift button that is normally used to just shift the display into your main shift button. The one down side (or perk depending how you look at it) is that the shift latches. You can't program it to either hold or lock like the other shift. When you hit that shift, it changes everything to the shifted side and won't change back unless you hit it again. Hope that helps! -Allan