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Interesting email I got

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Mike Cumbo
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Got this email the other day. I was asked to do that game, but was busy with other stuff. I do not know who wrote this, but they did have my email address. BTW, in the post is reference "to our area", I work in the Baltimore/DC area

[quote]Hello fellow technicians of the Mid Atlantic Region,

I am writing to each of you using this anonymous account because the subject matter that I am bringing to your attention has serious potential of being a "shoot the messenger" issue. I am a long time freelance technician in this area, and I am not particularly keen on "getting shot."

In short, Fox Sports out of LA has crewed 3 Women's Professional Soccer games in our area. The games are being played at the Maryland Soccer Plex in the Germantown area. The first game was this past Saturday, April 11. The crew that Fox hired was informed by email 2 days before the event that the terms of employment called for an 11 hour day (10 hours paid, and an unpaid lunch hour stuck in there.) None of the crew understood this when they were originally hired by Fox. When notified of the unpaid lunch, most crew members contacted Tim Ring, the Fox crewer, and told him that the 11 hour day was not their understanding upon initial hiring and that we, in the mid Atlantic region, do NOT work 11 hour days with no overtime. (We are all aware that the Fox national agreement calls for an 11 hour day, but this national agreement also has some counterbalancing benefits, in terms of higher pay rates and much more work that is being offered than to single event daily hires.)

We are not sure how Fox is going to handle their little payroll dilemma. Since Fox requires everyone to fill out paperwork and do a timesheet, it is left to be seen as to whether or not Fox will pay those who worked on the first game on a ten hour rate with OT after 10. If they do not, I know that there will be folks who will not work on the next two games even though they are already crewed on them.

I would ask that if you get a call to work on future games from Fox, know that some of your fellow technicians have already turned them down, standing firmly on the principal of the 10 hour day with a paid lunch. If we all stand together, we stand a chance of keeping our work day. However, if Fox can find qualified employees who are willing to work on an 11 hour rate (for the same 10 hour pay), we will find that our 10 hour work day is numbered. Each of the other employers will demand the same concession in due time.

For the record, it is my understanding that Fox is not requiring an 11 hour day in San Francisco because their union rules prohibit it. And I seriously doubt that they are going to get anyone to work an 11 day in New Jersey for similar reasons. They will cherry pick where they can. Hope you all don't feel like being cherries.

I am sending this email BCC, but I would strongly urge each of us to discuss it among ourselves. I truly believe that if we stand united, we can secure our 10 hour work day. However, if Fox can find qualified technicians willing to work an 11 hour day at 10 hour rates, we can all kiss our paid lunch periods goodbye.

In solidarity,

Your Friend and fellow Freelancer,
Phantomtech[/quote]

Dan Berger
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Just FYI, this email mentioned the SF Bay Area 10hr day... we actually are on an 8 hr day, cause it's a California law, and then get 1hr OT, and 1hr paid meal. We still get paid a minimum 10hrs, the total day rate ends up the same. This also gets around the 40hr work week (another CA law), we can work 5 8hr days, each day has OT & a paid meal. Basically, the union contract is following CA law, the union is not dictating the 8hr day. --- Dan
EricG
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Does anyone know how this situation ended up shaking out?
sahonen
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[quote="pony power"]People who have real jobs don't get paid for lunch how did we get so special that the employer pays us to go and eat dinner?[/quote] Considering that many shows pay a missed meal penalty if you have to skip dinner, I would argue that this is not the case. Also, we're not actually off of work during the meal break. We're expected to be on-call if something breaks, we can't do work for anyone else during that time, anything we do in that time is still governed by any employee conduct policies that are in place... That time belongs to our employers. Just because we're using that time to eat doesn't change that.
- Stephan Ahonen
EricG
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[quote="pony power"]People who have real jobs don't get paid for lunch how did we get so special that the employer pays us to go and eat dinner?[/quote] We (I mean "we" in the "we the freelancers" sense, don't know if you fall into that) are special because: A) People with "real jobs" usually work an 8-hour day, not 10. B) Most people with "real jobs" have more job security (not to mention paid vacation time, insurance, other benefits....) than us freelancers. Additionally, if you have a "real job" that pays a salary per week rather than a wage per hour, you do indeed get paid to go to lunch. 5 times a week, in fact. C) If I wanted a "real job" I would stop freelancing and get one. If I was asked to work an 11-hour day with no overtime, my rate would go up by exactly 15% for that client. Yours should too. They have the money; this 11-hour thing is just another way to try to squeeze a few more pennies out of the dollar so that some mid-level exec can show his boss how much more profit he made him this year over last. Don't go along with it. You hurt yourself and you hurt your fellow freelancers when you do.
pony power
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It's too bad that in this industry we have to worry about things like this, but there are some techs not too far from the DC area that are stuggling and are willing do these gigs just to stay workin. People who have real jobs don't get paid for lunch how did we get so special that the employer pays us to go and eat dinner? I remember not so long ago 1 of my clients tried an 8 hour day and everyone said that it was not good I will never understand that one.