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keyanne vs kalypso

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greg
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I was told yesterday I will be on a show with a keyanne instead of a kalypso.  I have never seen a keyanne at all, I work daily on a kalypso an have a little knowledge of the kayak.  I was told the keyanne is running kalypso software.  My question is if it is running kalypso software, how kalypso like will it be?  Is there anything to watch out for.  How similar are the two boxes.
 
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greg

Mike Stevens
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It's true that if you know a Kalypso, you pretty much know the Kayenne. Word of warning, the buttons on the Kayenne are very easy to push. Resting your fingers on the buttons risk you actually pushing the button, just an FYI.The master E-MEM panel also acts as the E-MEM edit and time adjust panel. There are seperate buttons that delage that entire area of the switcher to either be the master E-MEM, E-MEM Edit, Time Adjust, and even E-MEM delegates. Also, instead of having SS A, B, and C delegate, you can now delegate to either SS's 1 through 6. There is also some more delegates available to you compared to the Kalypso.It's also easier now to see what each keyer source is now. On each ME, you can clearly see what is assigned to each keyer. You can also change the colors for each ME's buttons. Kinda nice, but you cannot change the color of the source display, you can only invert it.

Bob Ennis
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The marketing story from GV is pretty much that "if you know a Kalypso, you can run a Kayenne".  I would equate the comparison to "if you know a 3000 or 4000, you can run a Kalypso" - both statements are true, but the newer switchers have so much more power & features than their predecessors that walking into one without any training may cause you some issues. 
The Kayenne menus are supposedly designed to look & feel like Kalypso, and if you treat the Kayenne like a Kalypso, you will probably get by OK.  However, there are features such as the additional keyers per M/E, the 1/2 M/E, the iDPM's on the keyers vs. the ones used for background transitions, and the panel programmability that have the potential to confuse you if you haven't been acquainted with them.  The GV website supposedly (I say supposedly only because I haven't checked it out in a while) has the Kayenne manuals & documentation - it might be worth your while to download these & go over them to get an idea of what you're walking into before you have to hit the ground running when you get into the truck.

Bob Ennis

Mike Cumbo
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Bob is pretty spot on. (When isn't the man??) A few weeks back I got an email and was told I would be using a Kayenne three days later. Hopefully the truck has a default setup and you walk into a clean switcher otherwise you can get confused by the way you can program the panel. See if the crewer will give you an extra hour at least, to get settled. A few notes, Double Take is standard. On a full ME keyers 5&6 can't have drop shadows, iDMP channels, (what a TE is now called.) nor do a chroma key or mask. They can do luminance and linear keys. The internal still store can only right now record stills, no clips like the Kalypso. Also, you have six outputs, not eight.If you want to add a level to a master E-MEM you hit LEARN AUTO RECALL, not LEAN MOD. You have 1000 E-Mem's and 999 Macros. They are grouped in pages, page 0-9. Timeline editing, around the Master E-Mem section is a button labeled EMEM EDIT. It changes the soft keys so you can edit timelines using the panel and not the menu.

greg
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The fortunate thing is I have an entire set day, so that is good.  Also the show is fairly simple (non-sports show) a few effects/bumps/roll outs, two boxes ... etc.  so that relaxes me a bit.  The crewer is also getting me some numbers of so GV gurus to contact if I have any problems.  I've been hammering through the manual and it really don't seem too bad so that is also a little settling.  When you say the master-emem is also the emem edit I am assuming its  kinda like the kayak in that sense.  I do have a spotbox with a lance... I am assuming the lance is still using pbus to talk to the kayanne.  Is that still possible?  I haven't read anything about pbus yet.  Can anyone clarify how to control the lance.  Also iDPM delegation is a little foggy, Do you delegate in the MFM? if so how is it done? 
Sorry for all the questions but without the panel or menu in front of me at the time all these questions are poping up.
thanks for all the help
greg

Mike Cumbo
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Greg, Master E-MEM/TL editing, there is that magic "E-MEM EDIT" button that changes the Master E-MEM section to TL edit. Lance still uses PBUS, in fact, CPL is GONE. As explained to me the Kayak frame did not have CPL so the Kayenne doesn't either. PBUS works like it did on the 3k/4k and Kalypso. iDPM assignment, very similar to TE's on a Kalypso. Can be done in the MFM.  

greg
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thanks mike, that clears things up a bit