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Brian Mirrlees
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Hi: 2 quick set-up related questions...
i) On our 8K, the panel remote user set-up is stored as USER 8... I think it something like SWR REM PANEL under ENG SET-UP... (or something like that)... I always thought it was just where a user defined set-up was placed... When we launched with the 8K, there was a bit of an un-orchestrated rush going on just getting there... I always thought that it was strange to strore this at User 8, but it worked so....  leave well enough alone.
Last week, I was in our mobile which also has an 8K... and noticed the same USER 8 store was in the ENG SET-UP.
Q: Why is it stored at that particular USER level?
ii) Again due the the rush to get going with the 8K, all the TDs seemed to be working from the MAIN TABLE for V/K pairs and Xpt assigns... But doing some reading (after the fact) it seems that we should have left the MAIN TABLE intact as is, and then worked from the subsequent 14 numerical tables.
I'm kind of half doing this now... My local show is from sources/layout stored in the MAIN TABLE and the remote show is set-up on one of the numerical table sets.
Q: Does it matter? Is it best to leave the MAIN TABLE intact, or can it be used as a part of a daily set-up... Or is it preferred to always work from the numerical table sets for V/K changes and layouts?
 
thx.
b.

hosko
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Another reason to use multiple tables is if you want to have different sources on your ME's or AUX panel. For instance all your M/E's could use table 1 which is layed out so things you hot cut to a lot are grouped together and keys are on the shift rows. Then your Aux's could be using Table 2 which have a different layout. If you only use the same directory for all your shows you could also have different setups on different tables and quickly change between them, you can setup a menu macro so one button push instantly changes your layout. This is great if you have a chat show which has a band play and you want to quickly change the layout between the two segments.Multiple tables are also good if you have multiple TD's (vision switchers here) who all like to have their own layouts for shows (I like my cameras hard left and my VT's, GFX etc hard right, others like it differently). Each operator can have their own table saved and before a show just call up their own table. Because they are a subset of the main table all the macros and effects will still work. Even if you have a macro that calls up a specific source and you forget to put it on your personal table because its on the main table it will still be called up.

Bob Ennis
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To my knowledge, there's no reason that the SWR REM needs to be at User 8 - it can be programmed to any of the User buttons.  I tend to use the outside cormers (1, 4, 5, & 8) for the things that I need to get to fast & often.  For me, I have the PVW Safe Title at #8.  I would assume that both of the switchers that you've encountered are either used with multiple panels or with editors...User 8 would be a quick way to turn that feature on & off.
You are right about the Main tables - the theory is that once the Main table is mapped, all of the other User tables (I think that there's 14 or so of them) are created as subsets of the Main.  Very old software versions didn't have the User tables like the 8K does now, and so many users got used to making the Main table their "Bible" and never got into using the other tables for individual mapping.  The thought with a Main table is that the facility or the truck would have a "master list" of sources & associated key signals which would never change - the user would use these unchanging sources to build custom tables...much like the Source mapping on Kalypso where the EIC sets the sources in the ENG menu & the user does both Source Patching & Crosspoint Mapping which manipulates but does not change the Master Sources.
For those in a rush to get set-up, creating a Main table & then building User tables can seem like doubling the workload, and many users just stick with the Main.  Doing it this way isn't wrong; it just limits flexibility...but if it works then it doesn't matter.

Bob Ennis

Curt
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Hello, One thing to keep in mind w/ tables...( unless this had changed in newer software), remote aux panels ( 1RU satellite aux panels) can only access tables 1-4.  So if you are in a house that has many remote panels, and there need to feed different tables to them, you may want to start w/ 14 and work backwards for your switcher panel.    For me, I use table 4 for the video guy, this way when I inhibit cameras ( depending on what studio is in use), the video op has all the cameras all the time...Didn't do this at first until this instance came up. Curt