Best Low Cost Replay Device
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This may fall out of topic...or forum even... My station is working on getting new a new replay system for our small remote truck. Space is premium and we are currently using 2 Panasonic P2 decks and a DVCpro Deck. We are looking at something that is able to record and playback at the same time...and is able to built multiple playlists with ease (haha) and not "miss" the action while the operator is editing. We are researching the SONY DSR1000a, and have looked into a few other things... I am just looking for some thoughts... Thanks!
Just to update those who replied...
We decided to purchase the Sony DSR1k with the appropriate DNF Controller. The DNF controller is actually designed for the DSR and works very well. The reason we decided on this system is the constant record and play. Playlisting and editing are not as "fancy" as the evs, and the clip list is not as track-able list on a pc based system. You have to track your cues manually on paper. Once you know your cues it is a 4 key sequence to insert into your playlist. All is done via the DNF Controller. (4 keys are xxx and insert (xxx being the cue point number)).
Interesting note ...
This DNF controller can be controlled via PBUS with an option that can be purchased. The ability to create cue points and recall from a switcher (exactly like a lance) and the SONY Decks (exactly like a FF) cue instantly. I also think this solution could be an interesting alternative to the FF / Lance. Cost is about 13k for decks, controller with options, rackmount, etc. the fast forward option (in sd) is roughly around 23k (based on retail only). I am a big fan of how the SD FF works and by no means am I knocking the Fast Forward, just throwing it out to those who may be looking for something like this in the future.
We use the BufTek Sport replay in our small TV truck right now. It has worked perfectly and it really is easy to use, even with playlists.
We're actually needing to upgrade to HD and are looking to sell it. If you are interested, we would be willing to let it go for a decent price. Contact me if you're interested.
On a side note, we are replacing it with a 3 channel HD machine. Any guesses?? We are now going to be using a the 3Play from NewTek that was discussed previously.
Brian
Brian,
Drop me a line at banks@jbjtd.com and let me know more details on the BufTek.
We purchased 2 Sony DSR-1000a...so now the question turns to, does anyone have any concerns they have run into with these decks?
Thanks for all the input. We are looking at the SONY DSR-1000a really hard with a DNF Controller designed for that deck. We looked at the NEWTEK and it doesn't appear that the device will work as it is advertised to work. The Abekas device would work out great along with the K2 style of replay server however the cost is over our budget. We have about 16k for everything. I will let you know how things go with this. I am not sure which option we are going to take at this point.
You mentioned that you looked at the Newtek 3Play, but that you had concerns about it features/capabilites. Could you elaborate?
We use DSR-DR1000s for Overhead net cams or the reverse angles in addition to the EVS channels. They work great with the DNF box and they cue to marks very fast. Also since they continue to record while you play back you can easily dump the shots you want into the EVS durring breaks to add to packs.
What switcher are you using? If it has machine control I wouldn't even bother getting the DNF, unless you need to do looping. The DSR-100 I believe is like a VTR, only runs in BVW? Does it do odetics, VDCP with clip bases recalls?
For replays? Not a DDR for replay effects, the OP was looking for something to replace the VTRs.
Mike, thanks, I thought initially replay DDR. I should maybe read :)
It will be a replay system, however we do not have an EVS so it will be where all the playlists and packages live. We will have to edit inside the DSR and everything. Just to answer the switcher question, we have a zodiak
Wait, do you want the box to function as an EVS replacement or Fast Forward/Spotbox replacement?
Disclaimer: I am product manager here at Abekas.Abekas have an instant replay server named "Mira" featuring 4 video channels; and is switchable between SD or HD. We've teamed up with DNF Controls and have a slick interface with the new DNF model "DMAT-AB" control panel to control Mira during live instant replay. The system can be configured as either "2-IN/2-OUT" or "3-IN/1-OUT" operation. With 1 replay channel, all play list transitions are "cuts only." We are showing 2-IN/2-OUT with dissolves during List Play at NAB in Las Vegas in April.The complete system has a list price of less than $45K, including the DMAT-AB control panel and over 33-hours of shared storage at 100Mb/s bit rates for HD. SD has even more storage time.We've sold several of these instant replay systems, including a couple of facilities where the 3-Play system was purchased and then kicked out because it didn't really work as advertised.You can learn more about Mira and the DMAT-AB at: http://www.abekas.com/product/Mira/page1082.htm.
The GVG product is a K2 Profile, not sure of cost. Can be 2 or 4 channels.
Buf Tek makes a controller DDR combo seems pretty small and affordable
http://www.buftek.com/
Check out the 3Play product from NewTek.
www.newtek.com
b.
NewTek has designed some interesting products in the past. I would check them out. Grass also had an EVS clone type box out. I haven't seen it but someone posted about it here before. Not sure of the $$$ and physical size.Fast Forward says on their web site their HD box can be configured as a one in, one out with simultaneous record and playback. Not sure about playlists. Let us know what you find. .
I saw the GV product last summer, it was part of the sales "roadshow". I was told that the price tag was about $ 90k.
The Newtek 3Play product goes for about $ 22K.
b.
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I don't know if you have already purchased but EVS have a new product out called the XTnano its a slimed down 4 channel server which can operate in 2in 2out or 3in 1out for replays.